Layover Adventures From Amsterdam to Kenya

be kidding me because no one was taking it and then they kept upping it upping it and i had like a number in my head and i was like okay if it crosses if it crosses 2k i'll do it like that's worth missing a day of my trip and then it and then they went from 2k to 4k and i was like me yeah i was like i could do a whole nother trip off of that yeah there's only one every time where like they overbooked my flight and they were doing that but the most i ever got to was like 500 bucks yeah yeah it's especially if you think about like once you're in the airport and have like waited for your flight like the last day on earth that you want to do is go home or like go to a hotel and then take a later flight yeah

How was Amsterdam? I didn't actually. I was actually going to Kenya. Kenya? So I was just connecting in Amsterdam. But one of my, like, best friends from my college roommate was, she's also doing her MBA. And she, her whole family is from Kenya. And so she was like, just get your flight, come stay with, like, my aunts and uncles. And, yeah. So I went with her for two weeks before this. That's awesome. Yeah, it was super cool. We went out and, like, saw the, like, the animals at, like, one of the national parks and stuff. It was super awesome. I was going to do that? Yeah, it was super, super awesome. It was one of those, like, crazy random things where I was like, when else would there be timing? Like, I was like, I got to make this happen. Because when else would, like, one of my best friends be like, here's an opportunity to just come and stay for two weeks. And all expenses paid. Just like, yeah, yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome.

that's definitely the one continent i need to go to next is africa yeah i haven't been there yet yeah i heard kenya's beautiful yeah kenya's sick i i really thought it was gonna feel like it took like forever to get there but honestly it wasn't as bad i think i prepared myself for the flight to feel like because it's like two nine-hour flights like back to back and i prepared myself for it to feel like awful but then it was it was fine i think part of it was that i flew home during the world cup final so the plane was completely empty and i had a whole road of myself so i got to like lay fully so i think that's part of why i was like oh that was easy and i couldn't figure out why the plane was so empty and then i was like oh it's it's the final right now i was i was sick i was uh i was in thailand actually during the world cup final no way i was very tuned into the world cup leading up to

and i had arrived there maybe like saturday morning like at 3 a.m and the world cup was that following sunday but it was like at 2 a.m in thai time yeah and i was like i can't because i was there for work yeah and i was like we started on one day like 8 a.m i had to get presentations i was like i can't stay up until four in the morning watching soccer yeah yeah and then i just woke up and saw me just making one where in thailand was your work bangkok oh cool did you get to like explore at all or not as much sort of kind of um like i was there from

saturday to friday basically gotcha so i just got back on saturday morning oh my god are you good are you exhausted yeah i think i'm okay yeah i kind of slept on the way here yeah for the most part to kind of adjust to the time schedule yeah and then try to just stay up saturday and then we just sleep at a regular time um but i explored a little bit like i went to a muay thai fight that was probably the most thai thing i did i had a lot of mango sticky rice yeah that was like my addiction for the yeah that stuff's good yeah and then other than that i just kind of went to like a couple different rooftop restaurants bars or whatever so it was a cool experience though yeah i went to a lot of malls it's a very mall heavy city which i didn't expect um but it was cool though i enjoyed my time yeah how long were you there for a week oh a week a week is not

How long is it from South Korea to here? How long does it take to get from South Korea to here? 14, maybe 14 hours. Gotcha. Is it direct or do you? Direct. Yeah, there's a direct flight. Oh, well that's lucky. So that's a long direct flight. Yeah, super long. I had my layover in Seoul going to Korea. Oh, really? It was about a 14-hour flight to Korea and then a 5-hour flight to Thailand. Wow. So you live around Seoul? Well, my layover was only like 2 hours. 2 hours, yeah. It was very short. Unfortunately, I didn't have much time to explore. It is a very nice airport though. Oh, yeah? Very large airport. Yeah, that's how I felt in Amsterdam because I've never been to Amsterdam and I had a 5-hour layover. And I was just like walking all over the airport like looking at all the little shops and stuff and like the couch.

cafes and like ate a stroopwafel and I was like maybe I've kind of been to Amsterdam now. Yes, I wouldn't be mad at like kind of traveling like that once I get into the international travel scene and going somewhere and having like a 48 hour layover or something or even just eight hours just to take like a day trip in the city. Yeah, that was very quick. 100%. Oh my god. No, the Uber was going to take too long. Oh. I got down to the parking lot. I was like, whoa. And it's at 12 minutes and I'm like, I'm literally going to get there and come like right back, whatever. I'm going to survive.

So what did I miss? Not much. It was a part of two. It was just kind of like... Wait, when were you in the graph? Fourteen flies. Uh, twenty, twenty three? Yeah. I think it was like two, maybe five days. Five days before it was just kind of... I got there in February, we left to like August. That's what you were used to. Yeah. Okay. I got there in July. Okay. It took me a couple of days to adjust. I had to kind of adjust it, but by the time I adjusted I was leaving. Yeah. Ok, it's awful, isn't it? Yeah. Do they actually have raps? I feel like you're adjusting now. Well, I heard they have raps. I wouldn't be surprised. In the rules. I haven't eaten in the world. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if I want to play, but yeah. It's about the moment. We did... We did like yoga or... Have you found like the right time to talk to the family back home at all? Uh... Yeah. My mother is just... Like we did little things, but our main...

Find us the right time to call me every day It's good, but you know, sometimes I try to go somewhere else that wasn't there. No, maybe I like that super huge show of being able to be like, oh I'm going to go to Prague this weekend, I'm going to go to Prague this weekend, not like, I'm going to go to Augusta this weekend, you know, like, it's like not, I'm the same. Yeah, that was a nice part of my career to be on the show, like, anywhere. I'm not sure, I'm not sure. We covered like almost every European country. Look at that thing so we didn't go to Prague. Shy.

go back to my country after one years what was your favorite is very important yeah like yeah maybe I have to go back to my country like the Alps or Alps yeah yeah yeah yeah Bosnia and Herzegovina had the really good food super cheap they were super nice towards like we had the one thing is great is like you know Georgia like South Korean to get driver license we don't have food so good even non-french food still like just the whole city is like Georgia and South Korea so I didn't need to go visit France from the beginning but they didn't have to cut out the border so which is good yeah so I'll let it go but I needed to go the U like rubber license because of my I-20 and my U-I-20 was

I don't know that was the thing where countries have like arrangements to the states where you would have to take a driver's test. Okay. My husband was armed. And German. And then he ran straight to the left side. Oh, yeah, the same one. So yeah, yeah, yeah. This is his first... I guess that makes sense why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a whole different language. We're just speaking. We're just speaking one word. So, my husband switched from... Japanese plus me. Okay, okay. Yeah. He took... We didn't tell us yet. Lost away. Oh, really? He... I mean, he honestly can't tell me much. Because it's like... He works like in a bunker type thing. Like... He doesn't have his phone. He doesn't have his phone. He doesn't tell me anything. But he just like... It's very bare yet. He's supporting people that are employed right now. All up. But he's like, I'm not... Ten people. I'm like, well, if you want to do work... I'm not. Did you know them before this? No. You're not going to become an officer to do the thing. Like, you manage people that do the thing. I'm back in years. Yeah. Yeah.

The city is in Augusta right now, right? You mentioned I was wearing so many votes, so after... South Korean... ...we should participate in the pre-ambient language. Why would she do it in Columbus? She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a teacher. She's a pre-ambient language. I'm a Lagrange. Lagrange. Lagrange. Lagrange. Yeah, okay, sorry. So that's why we're like... That's your request at Columbus. It's like between Columbus and where we are now in Phoenix. Yeah, yeah. I lived in Columbus while I was at PwC. I was just like commuting. Okay. Atlanta a couple times a month, but I was mostly commuting to Phoenix. Like every other week, so it was pretty cool. The things you do for love, right? Well, yeah, we did the long-distance thing about last year in the military. So we had three hours part, and then... But I got to move here. We relocated to Petrie, so she could say at her job. And I could go. What's she at?

What's the factor of you getting out? You have to know. Do you want to get out? My job is kind of downsizing the army. We've got... We've got replaced by drones. Oh, yeah. And honestly, yeah, I was kind of sick of the military. I don't really happen anymore. Yeah. It's kind of a lot. It's fun while you're in it, but then like, eventually you hit a wall, and you're like, I don't like this anymore. Yeah, yeah. I feel like my husband's been like that the whole time. And I'm like, just get out. Well, you know, he still owes one more year. Oh, okay. Yeah. I feel like he can get out. Do you have to do like a certain amount of time for certain benefits or what? He did undergrad at West Point and you owe five years out of when you want to graduate. Yeah. When did he graduate? Uh, class of 2022. Okay, I'll see your benefits. 2020? Yeah. I don't know anyone that close. His brother was 2018. He's like, comes from like a very military heavy family, like his... He was born in a ...

in West Point, because his dad was teaching at West Point when he was born, so it's like, yeah. Did you get the history? It's like ingrained in his family, so I get why people do that. Okay, how on earth do you get letters from your senator? I've never understood that. So, like, every, like... Is it, like, the office or what, like... Yeah. Yeah, like, if you literally go on, like, any of their websites, they have, like, the whole segment just, like, how to apply for, like, their, like, letter of recommendation and, like... It's like... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like one of the fourth day, like that's the only time I've met him, but like, yeah, they're not really involved in the whole process, they're just like, you just have to stick it around, that kind of thing. You're not like chit-chatting with Elizabeth Warren. No. At least during the 11th. Yeah. It was like one of our first days, just be like, call me to prep for life. We've been together for 10 years, and it's okay.

Honestly, it sucks. They'd give you, like, boiled steak for dinner, you know what I'm talking about? Like, the steak they would give you... Boiled steak? I just don't like the core memory. Yeah. Um... Yeah, the food was, like, very... The dancers, like, he never wanted to stick around. Like, he just wanted to go... Cuz West Point's, like, an hour from New York City. He'd take a train straight to Grand Central. So, they all just wanted to dip right after dinner and, like, check the box. It looked like high school dancing, like, to me. Like, I don't know, did you ever have a good experience in a dance?

Is there water? Oh! Pretty much like all the single people. After like the events were over, we would just like go to our... Yeah, like our Airbnb and hang out or whatever. I mean, he wasn't single, but he also wanted to just go to this. He did not like it. He did not like it. My friends were like, to be honest, like how was, you know, at the point. And she was like, we should have been pretty sick. And that was the answer. I don't know. Did you have a good experience?

I definitely struggled while I was there, it was a lot for me, and I think I appreciated being there. It worked really good. It's like once you're done, you can say you're wet, but did you have fun out of it? So funny enough, I was on vacation this month, and we were in New York, so I took my fiancée to go visit there because she never saw it, and looking back now, I'm like, you know, it's kind of fun, but looking back, I'm like, I would never do that. I mean, you didn't have time to go to the city, right? I mean, like once a semester. Yeah. He was there during COVID, so they talked to them in there for like six months, so I couldn't see him.

Where were you in college while you were in college? I was at Indiana. So I was in Texas. That's why like this long distance is pretty chill for us. We did that in five years. That's crazy. What time are you? I'm 33. Yeah, I graduated before most of the COVID stuff happened. My very last semester was a mix of hybrids online, but it looked like I graduated that spring.

Fort Benning, Fort Riley, Bex Fort Benning, and the first to work.

Oh yeah. Yeah, Columbus is Jackie. Yeah. I literally heard gunshots from our apartment. I was like, where am I? I didn't want to think about Columbus. Like, I was like, oh yeah, I was over here. When I went by the second time, it got a little bit better. It depends what area you're in. Yeah, like I was uptown Columbus my second time, which was like the part of Columbus. We were in like Bib City. What's that? Like the river one. Oh yeah. Like, but then, not the river one. Like, go like down for five minutes. Yeah.

It's like not quite gentrified. They tried to, but it didn't work, but they have a really great apartment complex there by the river, but not in the poorest part of the country. It's a lot better now, but still not the most area. That was a while ago. I guess it did. It starts from here. It started? Yeah. We still have 20 minutes.

because I know I can work a lot, so it's going to work for me. Oh, it's giving you nothing? True. Yeah. We had a lot of time. Well, at least it takes a lot of us to do every bit. So do we? Yeah. So they gave us extra time. There is alternative option. Maybe it takes five minutes by walk. What? Did you know Cokes? A kind of cafeteria. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes five minutes. I haven't seen any other part of campus yet. Really? Is it nice? Not bad. Not bad? Not bad. Not bad.

Who's the closest to Seoul? I'm from Busan. It's a south part of South Korea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very south. I've been to Seoul. Ah, you've been to Seoul. Yeah, it's always very city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's this do at Seoul? It's a street food, like, street food. Ah, street food, yeah. Yeah, I tried everything. Which one is best? The food? Yeah, street food. Oh, like, I love, like, TV battles. It's not really street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, why are you laughing? I know, no, no. I'm not real? I know, no, no. It's just a very typical one. Because we've been probably like... What's your name? What's your favorite? What's your favorite? My favorite? Yeah.

My favorite is Korean bbq. Korean bbq. That's like bulgogi? That bulgogi is a kind of Korean bbq. Well, yeah. We call Korean bbq like pork belly. Yeah, that one. We call it Korean bbq. You live in this town in Korea? Yeah. Like in a restaurant? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like here? Ah, here? Step got a grill. Yeah, yeah. It's depending on the store. Some store, yeah. I should do it to myself. Another store, Step, the grill. Depending on the store. I like kimchi. Kimchi? Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. It's made for your gut, right? Yeah, yeah. Was it the process of moving? Or was it where you go to? It's like sweet potato. Sweet potato? I do! Like, you guys have a bunch of little side dishes.

Yeah And it's like, it tastes very sweet and like, it almost tastes like there's honey on it It's like potato Uh-huh Oh, I don't know I can't picture it Is Jepchai Greek? Jepchai? Jepchai? Jepchai? Jepchai, yeah, yeah Jepchai is really good Yeah, yeah, that one is really good I made it before Oh, you? It's not as good as, like, you know Uh-huh Oh Oh, you were a good cooker, like I didn't press my second hand Oh, oh So, you made bulbogi? Yeah Oh, that's right Yeah, that's where I grew up I lived in Baltimore before this, though And I've been here for this time Because it has so many vegetables Yeah, so many vegetables I think the first thing I'd say is that Baltimore is Baltimore That's the only thing I'd say It was like the old Yeah, yeah, yeah I think Baltimore is fine Like, I've been here a couple of times I'm like, I've been here a couple of times

We were just having to talk about a lot of things. Yeah, my sister worked in a Korean restaurant for like five, four years in high school. So she would bring us a lot of food. And he was from Seoul. He's gone or so. Yeah, in San Antonio. Can I see? Yeah, yeah, it looks like... Ah! Yeah, yeah, I got it. What is it? Is it potato? It's maybe sweet potato. Yeah, sweet potato. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't had any Korean names. I don't know how to call it in Korean. Sweet potato? Just sweet potato. I mean, in Korean. I don't know. You don't have a name yet? Uh, I've already got the name. Um... No, they don't want to come back either.

Do you have any good Korean food recommendations? I haven't had much Korean food. I'm not sure how much Korean food I've had. Are you trying to go back to Chicago after graduating? I go to H Mart though. But mostly, I feel like I mostly get Japanese food at H Mart. I also pray for Japanese food. Really? Yeah, I like Japanese food. That's my favorite. My favorite is sushi. Yeah, I really love sushi. But I couldn't find it. Like sashimi? Sashimi, roll, everything. I love it. Yeah. There's some good sushi in Atlanta. Yeah.

Um, there's like, I feel like I'm more well versed with like the less fancy, there's some really fancy sushi that I like, like the red was in, like stuff like that, but then there's also just some like, like I've tried all the shrimp and sushi around here. How's the one next? I haven't tried the one that's Thai in sushi. Do you mean the Waiya? Waiya? Ah! I think that's good. It wasn't like my, it wasn't my favorite. I would say the, the best one that I've had, um, in the sushi.

Yeah, so I mean here it makes no sense with the public belt, Blackbird. With the CDC on it. Yeah, so there's a lot of opportunities. We're in like, we'll end up here for at least 3 to 5 years post-NBA. And this one, Bilbo Izakaya. Oh, man. That's what? I think, I don't know what that would technically be with. Izakaya. And then, I don't even try the Izakaya, but I heard that Izakaya was good too. I like that one. Yeah. Cause I was talking, um, Carrie, your freshman. Oh, do one of my freshman's, yeah. And then, and then a little fancier, but still very good. Um, Oku. Oku? Yeah. That's kind of like a nicer one. We'll see. I know there was... This is more about the stretcher. I think I'm just going to do it.

Yeah, this one's kind of fancy. So I'll be doing it a year in the business school, a year in the public health school, and a semester of, like, elective relations. Usually, this one. Each program is two years by itself, so that's now a good amount. And then, I do want to do, like, a study abroad. I was talking to her about that. She said some ability to do a study abroad that last semester. That would be perfect for me to invite you all to be graduating at that point. Yeah. That's a really nice study. Last semester, looking at how I graduated. So that would be cool. There's a place that does open class day, and they have one day a week where they literally, like, bring in the two men. You know what I'm going to do? You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do it.

So I want to do that at some point for a special occasion. But I have to go to a special occasion like Tuesday. Yeah. Well, I've been there and just got like regular sushi, but I haven't been there for the tuna cereal. I asked one of the Japanese classmates. We have Umi. Umi is Japanese. So I asked him, is there any that you sent to a Japanese restaurant? He said no. Yeah, I'm sure that's fine. He said no. No, no. Well, because you're far from the coast too. So it's like any fish is being like frozen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Tokyo last year. Last year? Yeah, me too. It was insanely good. And it's not that expensive. Like I thought it was going to be like super expensive. Yeah. Yeah. No shit, I find theflμ. I won't put up someplace with the ice cream. Yeah, just maybe not like that the airportooh would be like, yeah, yum, yum. I didn't have to do that, but no.

I thought it was going to be like New York City crisis, but it wasn't. No, it wasn't. Like, it's expensive to get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had, like, chirachi bowls. I had a great time. Every day. Yeah. It was probably a lot of mercury, but. Yeah. Yeah. I had so many 7-Eleven, like, sandwiches when I was there. That was, like, how I started every day. That was 7-Eleven, yeah. Are the 7-Elevens in South Korea a big thing? 7-Eleven? Yeah. Yeah, kind of. Not as much convenience. Yeah, yeah, not, yeah. We have a lot of convenience store brands, like, not 7-Eleven. I think 7-Eleven is, it's Japanese brand, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we have 7-Eleven, though. We have, yeah, very alternative companies that work, too. Oh, wow.

They opened a Japanese style 7-Eleven on Train Mexico. Oh, Mexico, yeah. Yeah, like a pop-up. They've decorated it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would be so smart to do that. They should do that more places. Because people want that. I feel like companion stores only have chips and stuff. And to be able to go and get a good sandwich at a convenience store for a reasonable price is awesome. And you can't really do that anywhere. Or they have ramen. Yeah. Or the eggs. Yeah, yeah.

If you're lucky, sometimes you can find like plain hardball in the mix of the cup, but like... Amen. It's all the stuff. Yeah, we should bring it here. That's so cool. It wouldn't be. Yeah, several of them in Japan and Korea is slightly different. Yeah. They sell different products. Yeah. So when I travel to Japan, I always go to 7-Eleven and buy food. Yeah.

The quality is quite good, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would do, like, twice an age. Yeah, that was very cool. I was trying to finish that with my dad. Oh, yeah, I'd have, like, one nice meal. Yeah, I'd have, like, a nice meal. Yeah, I'd have, like, a nice meal. You had, like, the fruit of, like, the super bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fruit sandwiches, too, yeah. Wait, fruit sandwiches? Did you not have that with the milk bread and then they put the, like, cream? Yeah. Well, they had one that was, like, whatever, it was seasonal. Well, they sell those at the... What's this place? I mean, I have to use people here, like, live by. Oh, yeah, what? The one in the middle town. Everybody kind of, like... If you go downstairs, they have a Japanese market. No way. And they have, like, sandwiches like that.

Oh, that's good to know. There's one Japanese grocery store that I go to. Sometimes I'll like to make like cookie or sushi. And there's one Japanese grocery store in like Marietta-ish that I'll go to because they have a bunch of raw fish that's like good quality. And they sell like onigiri and all of that stuff. But it sells out like early in the morning. Take care of you. Good job.

Yeah.

good. If you like, if you like, um, I love this place. It's Taiwanese. Um, and they have, like, they, they're known for their hot chicken, but also they have, like, insane sandwiches, like the Taiwanese fried chicken. They show, they have really good breakfast stuff, too. Oh, how was that? Yeah. Yeah, and they, the coffee's really good, too. Thank you.

It's um, it's like a foodie, like, drinking. Like, but it's not where you skin your feet. You, no, no, it's not where you skin your feet. It's like where you bring restaurants and food to. You're like, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty similar. This pizza's really good. They do it right now. I'm finished.

Um, we're pretty human, we're both like really not picky at all, but I'm gonna taste good.

It's really good.

Like, I went to Vietnam, but then he went to college. Yeah. And he went a little, like, very authentic. And I, like, friend people. And I, like, friend people. Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

No, she just happened to me at the station. No. I saw you from South Korea. My roommate, she's from South Korea. She's at her place, but it's awesome. Ah, really? Yeah, I don't know that. I'm single. Your roommate is from South Korea? And it's in the camera. My little fan. Roommate. Like, buttered chicken. Ahhhh. It feels like a bummer.

Your teammate is Ellie? Yeah, yeah. This is my favorite restaurant. Oh, there. Next door. Oh, with the blue shirt? Yeah, blue shirt. The favorite is the food. They have a spicy barbecue sauce. There you go. They have an A.P. from there. And then they have baked oysters. I wonder if they're in the same classes to get that. Baked oysters? And then Ikea recommended you my same. No, but I meant, like, this one, this one is one of the hotbeds.

It's like kind of bougie. My location is so it's really pretty. I had brunch there though. It's like a traditional restaurant. I like this one. I like this one. I like this one. I like this one.

Yeah, there's a lot of places there, a lot of people have got some work we'd like to go to.

They came from the US when they were young.

Should we join you again?

Sandwiches? You? Yeah. Here's the other one. Once we get our own table. Okay.

I don't want to give my girl a shot back in the game. Yeah, there might be like 19 teams, yeah. I think there's 19, thank you. It's exciting. It's exciting. It's exciting. It's exciting. It's exciting. It's exciting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

that if there's any slight one, two, two to the class, if we add somebody or have somebody withdraw, we want to wait until the very last minute so we can put them together as balanced as possible. Yeah. Okay. So, reminder, ask Amy. It's a thing. Truly, it does not have to be about academics. I'm not saying I know all the answers.

But if it has something to do with the MBA program, and you have a question, if I don't know the answer, Harriet probably does. And if I don't know the answer, we will figure out how to find the answer. And that's kind of part of our mission in the program office, really, is to be the shepherds of your experience. And to answer questions where we can, to point you in the right direction. And if we can't, it's a question.

And just be your resource. So consider us your home base, okay? I tell people I answer to a E or quick question. Because I'm not kidding. Everybody addresses me as quick question. Quick question. You know, so I might as well just change my name to quick question. Hardly ever is it preceded with my name. It's just quick question. Which is fine. That's my specialty.

Even if it's not good. So, I heard a question or a, I guess it was kind of a question this morning when D. Brian was talking about important things to know about him, right? Somebody said, what do we call you? That is such a good question. And I have a slide for next week about what do you call your professors. But I thought let's just go ahead and touch on that. So, when in doubt, okay, professor, last name.

Okay. So many of them will be like, call me Jamie, or call me, you know, just, yeah, I was going to make a joke this morning. Okay. I am not a professor. I'm just saying. Okay. So just call me Jamie. Let's see. Oh, another thing that often people are kind of, well, I don't know how to ask this question, so we're going to cover it together. Okay. Okay. So.

I am going to say it, and then you all say it, okay? All right. Goi. Goi. Goi. Goi. So, okay. One more time. Goi. Goi. Excellent. Excellent. Okay. Is anybody from Brooklyn? Okay. All right. So, the one thing that you put on in the wintertime notes is... Yes. What do you call it? A sweater. A sweater. A sweater. Let's go.

So, repeat after me, goi, goi, sweat, you got it, that's how you say it, yay, okay, okay, any other random questions or thoughts on this before we get into the word? Yes? I don't want to ask any people on the class card, but can you share or say how many staff clasps from UKC?

I'm so excited.

But we are going to talk about that next week. Attendance is very important. I'm not going to give you a precise answer yet, because they've got a whole thing about it for next Monday. But just know it's important, okay? And look around, you know, the size of our program, it's intentional. And this is not, if you wanted to come and get your MBA in a place that can be anonymous, this ain't it. Because you're professors, and we are going to know your name.

we're going to miss you when you're not here, and we'll notice, so, but we'll cover all that, yeah, we'll cover all things academic, class related, and all that stuff next week, okay, all right, let's dig in here, okay, so, has anybody taken the Berkman's before? no, must be part of your head, okay, like a week ago

not counting most people have but how many of you yeah yeah that's a common one or like StrengthsFinder I was talking to somebody about earlier yeah or even Enneagram yeah all those kind of live in the little in the same family of assessments right um I hate calling them personality tests because we are not testing your personality okay um so I know you know we've probably got a room full of this is my jam I love this stuff and folks that are like seriously skeptics you know like not into it

Um, and I can appreciate both. Just know that this is not, you know, any, you know, uh, special magic or anything like that. It's based purely on how you answered the questions. And, uh, it's not perfect, you know? It may or may not be accurate. Um, but in our experience, it is, uh, very much more accurate than not. Um, okay. Um, I'm gonna go through a few details before I give you your report because...

know I've lost you for a few minutes after I give it to you. So, um, but before we get into it, I just want you to think about this. And it kind of came up in the, um, in the trust question that Dean Bryan was talking about this morning. Um, I want you to think about how would your people describe, you know, friends, your family.

previous co-workers. How do you think they would? I'm not going to ask you to tell us, but just think about it. How would they describe me? Most of us probably weren't very intentional about that, right? Like, you know, it's not like when you're a baby. You're like, oh, I don't need my mom to think that I am so kind, you know. So most of us, it just happens, right? It's not something that you intentionally...

side. Maybe you do when you're going to a new job or you're, you know, starting at a new company, something like that. But most of the time it's not intentional. I want you to just pause for a second and think about you have an opportunity right now, today, to be super intentional about you.

the people in this room would describe. Okay, how cool is that? How many opportunities do we get like that in life, you know? An opportunity, and I know some of you probably know each other or met at other Emory events and things, and that's great, but by and large, I think most of you are meeting each other for the first time today. So think about...

you're going to be to the people around you. Really think about that. How do you want the people in this room to describe you? How do you want your professors to describe you? How do you want me to describe you? You know, this is your opportunity. Are you going to be the guy that takes great notes and shares them with their teammates or their classmates?

in their section or are you the guy that invites the team over like your cook you know your chef that invites people over and make some dinner are you the gal who brings smelly food to class I mean but um are you the person who is always on time yes you are yes you are

Think about it, like if you're one of those people that's like, oh, I'm always like, change it. Change it. Change who you are for these people. But it's up to you, you know, like this is all a matter of.

going to be in this program from this point forward for those of you who might get married in the future probably some of your groomsmen or your bridesmaids are in this room and you just have them today or co-workers in the future probably in this room you know so the this is an important group of people and they're gonna a lot of them are going to be important to you always

the rest of your life so I just think it's so cool and it's so cool for me too though it's like any time you have a new group of students start I take a moment to think about that too like how do I want these students to experience me you know so and the burden is going to help us sort of draw that picture okay all right so how are we going to show up with each other starting right now okay

So, all right, so let's do some, what the heck is this thing? Okay, three perspectives of the birth. Again, don't like calling it a personality test. It's an indicator of your motivations, what motivates you, what motivates others, how you perceive yourself, and how you perceive each other. Okay?

So it is an indicator, I wouldn't say a predictor necessarily, am I contradicting myself, but an indicator of, in general, what sorts of behaviors and what sorts of reactions we might expect from you, or you from yourself, in different situations. Right? Okay. So, two basic principles.

feel like a lot of people have heard the first one, no such thing as normal, although I'm definitely going to use the word normal today. So, yeah. But no such thing as normal. Okay? The second one requires a little more thinking about, right? So, there's no logical connection between the way we behave, how we act, and how we need or want to be treated by other people.

to think about that. So it's a little twist, a little different than the golden rule, right? So the golden rule is what? Treat others the way they want to be treated. Right. Well, the Birkin says not so fast because the way that Oshon wants to be treated may not be the way I want to be treated, and it's not all about me, you know? So it's about knowing each other and getting to know each other in a way that you are bringing out the best.

each other based on what they do not what you do you know um now to be clear we're gonna it's a lot of numbers and that's one of the reasons why we love the bourbon so much is because of how rich it is but that's also kind of one of its drawbacks is that it requires a three-hour workshop to tell you what the heck all of this is telling you um what it means what do these numbers mean

But it creates a common language amongst all of you, right? So you've all taken it. Literally everybody in this room, yay you, completed their Berkman. And so now, as a team, you're going to have this as a tool in your arsenal to get the best out of each other. And nobody expects you to walk around with a sign around your neck that says, I need you to approach me this way and for everyone else to adjust how they speak to you based on that.

But it's worth reviewing and certainly worth looking at with your team to get an idea of what's going to work best for the group so that you're productive and doing the best that you can. Right? Okay. Let's see. Okay. Any questions so far? Okay. Did you?

maybe you'll answer it. I'm just going to ask if it's normal for people to like disagree with their results. Well let's see. Let's see. Here's the thing is like I said you know this isn't like any kind of magical results or anything you know like astrology or something but if you find there's a piece of it that's inaccurate usually what I do

is we'll look at it together and often the reason why it's a little different what we identify as probably the issue is your mindset when you were completing the questionnaire. Sometimes it's as simple as that but it could be a few different things. So I love talking about this if you can't tell and I'm happy to be with you to talk about yours individually in more detail if you want to do that or meet with your team. And by the way, well, I'll get to that. I'll get to the team stuff.

But this, we're going to come back to this a couple of times, but this is the basic structure of the Birdman, okay? So, you're going to see numbers and, you know, it has its own little language, right? So, we'll start with usual. Usual, usual behavior is actually the language in the reporter. So, usual behavior.

that your needs are being met, everything's going well, these are your strengths, these are the most observable parts of your personality, so, and this is where we want you operating, you know, is your needs are being met, we see usual behavior, okay? Your needs are, like I said, usual behavior's the most visible, so somebody came to me and said, what's Morgan like?

probably going to describe her usual behavior because that's just that's what I can see that's what I can observe your needs are not as visible actually they're so think about your needs as your motivators how do you like to get work done the type of environment that you like to work in so it's what you need from other people or the environment that you're working in in order to be operating at your best so your needs are being met

usual behavior. Needs not being met, stress reactions. Okay? So, and that's exactly what it is. It's a reaction. It is a reaction to your needs not being met. So this is just meant to give you a framework on, I mean, we all know what stress feels like, and a lot of us know what it looks like, too, right? But this is going to give you some insight into your teammates, but into yourself.

what does stress look like for me depending on the scenario i'm in or or what is it that's stressing me out and in this framework what need is not being met so how do i get that need met so i can be back at a more productive place okay so stress reaction is a reaction to needs not being met interest straightforward exactly what it sounds like what interest

motivates you, how do you like to get things done, your interests of course inform your needs. So this is what we're going to talk about today. It's divided into like two sections, so interests and then what Berman calls components. Okay, so we're going to start with interests and this is what my record looks like.

So, I know it means nothing to you right now, it's a bunch of, you know, but I'm putting this up here so that you know there is nothing in the report that you're going to get that you should be embarrassed by, okay? It is just straightforward information, okay? So, it is entirely, completely your call on whether or not you want to share the information, but you do need to let me know because there are team reports that I'm going to create for you guys.

If you don't want me to include you on your team and share your stuff, then let me know. Otherwise, I'll assume everybody's okay with it. But there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Nothing that is, that's just not the way that it's structured. So just keep that in mind as we go forward. Okay? All right. Ready? Okay. Now, here's how we're going to do this.

Hopefully, you're sitting near your teams. I need, hang on. Actually, I need one representative per team. Actually, let me just talk a bunch of stuff. I'm going to lay these out right quick. And then think about one member of your team is going to come up and get the reports and give them to everybody. Okay, so I'm going to lay these out. I'll tell you when they're here.

She was higher, lower, and I'm trying to understand how this happened. I would think it was like usual.

It's comparing your to the database of, I can't remember the number, it's like 3 million or something like that. It's comparing your responses to their bank of all-time working users. Now, I get scrubbed, everyone, like years will fall off the bottom as, you know, it's the most recent. I guess is the right way to say it, but think of these as percentiles.

Another thing to remember about interests, again, what are they not? Skills. Measure of skills, that's right. Another thing is if you have a low limit where the thing is on the bottom of your list there, it does not mean that you don't like that thing. Okay? It could be that you don't like that. Man, we're still there.

Think of the...

Dislike. Indifference. Those are not deal breakers for you. Okay? So, take it or leave it. You know, it might be nice to go outside, but you don't want to set your office up outside. Right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, keep an open mind with these and we'll go through. Okay. So, scientific. Did we do the week? Did I do the week? No, I stopped myself. I interrupt myself. Okay. So, raise your hand if you have.

90 or higher for scientific? 90? Whoa. Okay. Okay. Great. Excellent. Excellent. So, what about 60 or higher? 60. Okay. All right. What about 20 or lower? Few. Okay. Well, we know because that's the highest. Well, actually, it's not the highest, but it's up there, right?

Okay. Now, for those of you who raised your hand as 90 or higher, how many of you are scientists? We got one. See, Webby. High scientific doesn't necessarily mean that you're a scientist. We might have more scientists in here that don't have scientific as their highest interest. So, and, and, thank you.

think of this broadly in the way that Bergman defines it, is think of this as your information gatherers. Okay? So, answering the question why. So, collecting data, doing the research, finding the answers, right? That's scientific in Bergman terms. So, information gatherers, researchers, black, right?

Now, again, if you've got a low scientific, it doesn't mean you're not interested in researching or collecting data or collecting information. From a team perspective, it just means that that may not be an area of the group project that you are going to be especially, let me proofread this part before we turn it in because I am really focused on the data, you know?

So, does that make sense? Yeah? Okay. Let me go ahead and talk about all of these. Okay. Let me back up. Let's just talk about all of them. Okay. I'm going to zoom through some of the ones that aren't on the top half of your list. Okay. So, if scientific is why, technical is how. Okay? So, think of that as tangible. Get your hands in it. You know?

How does this thing work? How many of you are, let's go with, let's go with, well, let's go with 90 or higher. Raise your hand if you're 90 or higher in technical. Now, this one's lower, so there won't be that many of you. So, raise, raise, raise. Okay. So, does that track with you so far? Like, an interest in how things are put together or...

like how does a particular procedure like how did we get there how did that get to be the the order of steps you know so they're interested in finding out how okay um this might these might be your people who love shopping at Ikea yeah and like really just like to put stuff together right not me it makes me angry

It could be, but again, remember, low is not dislike, it's in due. So, if your job, let's say, going back to scientific, if your job doesn't necessarily involve the gathering of the data, you're like, hmm. If you're on the low end, you're like, well, that's fine. You know, but if you are 90 or higher in any of these interest categories,

that's really no longer just an interest it's a need so if what you're doing day to day let's say in your recruiting process and you're evaluating the job that you're considering and all of that for the for the high 90 or higher scientific folks if it doesn't afford you the opportunity to gather information to investigate and all that then

It may not be a great fit to me, you know. Yes? What if you're only sitting at a hospital, like, normalizing, but you're like at 87 or whatever? Well, I would say that's probably still true. I mean, you know, these are not hard and fast barriers, you know, or, not barriers, you know, lines. None of it is, by the way. So absolutely that could be true for you. And I think there's even some disagreement and debate about where that threshold is, you know, about what number is it where it actually becomes a name.

So that could certainly be true. Okay? All right. And then there are two categories in the interest categories that people get downright offended if it is lower than they think it should be. What do you think, I'm kind of giving it away, but what do you think one of them is? I heard them both. Okay, so the first one, just in order, is outdoor.

People are like what do you mean 11? I love nature. I love going for walks. I love going outside. Sure, but most people don't come to business school to be a park ranger. Right? It would be an amazing job, but that's not really what we do here. We don't have any park ranger classes. So, um...

So think of outdoor as the environment or indicators of the best environment we can work in. So kind of to form broad abstract terms. If you have a really high interest in outdoor, how many of you have, let's go 80 or higher in outdoor. Raise your hand. Okay. Okay, so for these guys, it's probably going to be important to see the space that they're working in open.

Um, or access the ability to see a window. Yeah. Um, now, I don't know anybody that's like, ugh, a window. But, if you're really high interest, and it's kind of coming to me, then a work environment that is closed in, in like a middle office with no windows, and that could be a problem.

know so think about it again in broader terms these might be the folks that need to have the opportunity to move around and all of that now again just because you have a low outdoor number doesn't mean you don't also like those things or prefer them it just means that that's not going to register for you as you're like evaluating your work environment that you're going to be in next it's not going to be a deal breaker probably yeah what do you think that's all that's how you raise your hand that you're high and out for right

Um, yeah, it was actually, like, one of the, uh, values that led me to, like, be a good job. Yep. So what were you doing? Or are you doing? Or both, or whatever. So I was asking, and then, so, like, sitting behind a computer screen. Say that again? Uh, finance. Finance. Okay. So that's what you were doing, or what you want to be doing, or both? Uh, whatever I was doing. So just, like, doing a sale all day. It's like an isolated, self-discovery path. Yeah. So if you have a really high outdoor interest.

you're in the right place, meaning you're going to mix it up a little bit. We're going to do something different, right? Okay. So far, so good? All right. What do you think is the other category that people get offended? I heard some folks say social service. Social service. I'm sorry to tell you, if you're low social service, you should stop.

No, no, no.

as a group. No surprise for a room full of MBAs, future MBAs. Social service. Think about how many of you are really high, 80 or higher social service. Okay. Yeah. So these folks might be paying fewer attention if you're in a job interview, and I'm going to grant examples and anecdotes and all of that to keep in time to school or work, but really this can apply in any area of your life.

But those of you who have a really high interest in social service, a good question to ask in the interview process is what social causes is the company involved in or do they support? Somebody that has a really high interest in social service, you should pay attention to that answer.

If it's, oh yeah, we're involved, it's great, we love our community, file that away, or does the company say, oh, actually, I'm so glad you asked. We are really active in Habitat for Humanity, and twice a year we go and we do the day of working on building a house, you know? So it's not so much what they say, but how they say it, that's the good indicator of this. Now, for those of you that are high social service, that might be a deal breaker for you, right? It's, if they, if, if.

In answering that question, they're not giving you the idea that it's not, that it's terribly important to them. So that might be a problem if you're really high social service interests. If you're low social service, does not mean that you hate everybody or you hate the environment or you hate being charitable. Think about the role that you prefer to serve when it comes to things like that, like causes that you support or that you're interested in supporting. One of my, one of our professors, the professor Peter Topping, this is, good thing, he's not dead, but he retired, so he's not here anymore.

But he's the professor that brought the Berkman to Poizueta and, you know, started all this, so blamed him. But he tells a story about one of his students. Oh, I actually have one, too. That was, like, really low-level social service. And she's like, how can that be? Because I work for Habitat for Humanity. How do I have a low social service?

And Peter's like, okay, well, let's figure it out. So what do you do for Kovachapra? She's an accountant. So how she supports the cause is more indirect than, you know, directly out there recruiting volunteers and stuff like that. So it may just be an indication or just the type of role that you like to play in supporting social policies, I would say.

My example was I had a student who, same scenario, exact same scenario, she had like an 11th social service, and immediately, like four weeks before she was sitting right where you are, she was a teacher in Teach for America. She's like, how can this be? One of the ways that happens, probably the most common way, I think that something like that happens where it feels inaccurate, is, her name is Lauren.

Lauren was thinking about what was ahead of her, not the experience that she's been having. Because, you know, Teach for America, MBA, she's obviously looking for some kind of career change, right? So she's thinking about what's in front of her. And sometimes that can, you know, throw off the number or make it a little bit lower than you think it should be. Or, I mean, you got this email from amy.pentley at emory.edu, just that.

influence the way that you answer the questions, you know, and you're like, oh, well this came from my business school, I need to answer this like a MBA would, you know, even if you don't need to, you know, like that could influence. So those are the ways that inaccuracies could happen, okay? All right, let's talk about the blue. These are my favorites, these are my highest for me. Okay, start with, let's start with art level to go. Start with artistic because that's one of your highest, artistic.

So raise your hand if you're 90 or higher artistic. Yeah. Look around. Teams, look around at who's raising their hand. If you want your teams raising their hand. Okay. So teams are your folks.

Be thankful that I like to eat.

or the highest in artistic. And that's the person who probably is gonna be

are also the folks that, who has a low artistic, okay, now, 2%, 2%, I love it, okay, okay,

until I straighten them. That's why it's not a museum. Don't touch the art in the museum. But you're paying more attention to the visual presentation. Okay? Alright. Literary. Okay. Doesn't mean you're a writer, but you could be. Think about this as your grammar police. Okay? Or...

Now, let me be clear, I am painting really broad strokes here, so it could show up with you in a different way than what I'm describing, so if you have questions about it, let me know, and we can talk more specifically about your interests. But, think of literary as the person who's going to be really thoughtful about how things are worded, and, um...

You know, this is really high for me. I'm over 90 in all three of these. And this one, musical is my highest. I'm not musical. I'll get to that. But literary probably, I would say, I would have thought would be the highest. Because I could give you a list of grammar, papas that I see on social media that made me want to.

Hold on here. There, there, or there. Which one? Ooh, you better use the right one. Yeah. Or, or, uh. Your, your. Your and your? Yes. Or, uh. It's and it's. Hmm? It's and it's? Yeah. Or, here's it, here's one that drives me crazy, that I think, well, I can't presume that I'm like, is so much smarter than everybody. I mean.

But using I, when the correct word is me, sometimes me is correct. Okay, I'm going to calm down. So that's what these folks are noticing, right, is how things are working. And how is the story being told written? It's written language, okay? So, great free readers of everything.

their own work because let me tell you i have absolutely as much of a snob as i am when it comes to this stuff i have absolutely used the wrong there you know but the difference is is when i do it and i have clicked send on the email i i uh there's a meme that i love that says uh uh i do my best proofreading after i get sent lord ain't that the truth so that is definitely me

And because of my high literary interest, I personally feel like when I see the error, I have to then follow up and be like, please do not judge my value by the fact that I used the wrong, I see it now, I apologize. Whereas somebody that has a low literary score, just may not notice, you know, or they may not, they'd be like, big deal, you know, it compares.

get it. It still says there when you say it out loud, you know. So, does that track for those of you in terms of your own numbers? Okay. Ish? Alright. In a musical, okay. I'm 99 musicals. Okay. Yeah? Okay. 90 or higher musicals. Okay. Now, keep your hand up if you're a musician.

Put your hand down if you're not. Okay, see? Okay, so we have some musicians in here. That's great. Thank you. But think of this more broadly, and this is certainly true for me, is this is more an indication of my sensitivity to sound and tone. Okay? Okay, so if I'm in a room and one of the fluorescent lights is going out and it's making that fuzzy sound.

I have a really hard time focusing on anything else that's happening. Or whether or not you can hear somebody if there's a lot of other people talking. Like, I'm probably going to be worse at hearing the question if there's a lot of talking going on all around. You know, like, I'm not going to be able to focus on that question.

I really do, I'm sensitive to sound, and tone. So think of tone of voice, right? Think about your partner, or your parents, or brother, or sister, when you ask, you say, hey, how was your day? Fine. So some of you that are really, now hopefully all of us know what that means, but if you're really high musical, you're like, whoa, hang on, what happened, what do you mean? What if you're low musical?

And you might go, oh, good, you know, what are we going to have for dinner? You know, yeah. Is it also about like expression? Like somebody talking with a monotone voice versus. Could. Yeah, yeah. So the question was, is it about expression? Like tone of voice, like monotone. Or do you guys, when I say vocal fry, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, that's vocal fry. So if you're a little musical, you may not even notice it.

you know. But if you're high musical, it might drive you nuts, and it drives me nuts, especially when it's coming out of my mouth. So, yes? So earlier you said you have a 90% or higher need in your job. Does activities include attending concerts? What's that? See? Here I go. So you said if it's 90 or above, it's a need to have a senior job. For musical activities include attending concerts, collecting and appreciating music. Yeah. So what does that mean? So that's pretty, you know, that's like a literal interpretation. I should say, especially for our purposes, that's where we have to think broader, you know, and thinking about is it a...

trading for or is it an office, you know, and making determinations on your environment based on, you know, sensitivity to sound or something, you know. Yeah. Okay. Well, okay, so I heard that emotional intelligence. Yeah. Okay.

yeah yeah I mean I don't think it's particularly described in that way you know okay we good here okay remember that low musical doesn't mean you hate music I told y'all my favorite band was and I'm a 99 musical to set track not really check out the greatest musicians new kids on the wall

But, again, the way that it shows up for me is very much about sound and tone, okay? All right. Now, the yellow categories are your two highest, which makes a lot of sense, but not for everybody, right? So this is data analysis. I generally will talk about these two together, even if they're different for you. Um, we can talk and figure out why that might be, but, um...

Or administrative. I hate some of the names. It used to be called clerical. Yeah. So data analysis, looking for processes and systems and how are things functioning, you know, and patterns, right? I hesitated to say patterns because I think that's more of a numerical.

indication or whatever but these two are super similar. So analyzing data, what does it mean, collecting data, you know, looking for those patterns and all of that stuff based on the numbers and the data itself. Does that make sense? Yeah? Okay. What questions do you have related to interest? Yes.

I don't know if you've heard this thing called like zone of genius, would you say the difference that you like put that tire on maybe parallel to like what your zone of genius is and what you should work with? I love it. I've never heard that, but I love it. Zone of genius? Is that what you said? So yeah, zone of genius. I love it. The theory is like your zone of genius is the things that you're like naturally good at. Right. It's actually like a lot of what you're like really interested in. Yeah. But, removing that.

important point at the beginning, not a measure of skill. So it could be, right? If you're a musician and you have a really high musical name, right? But not necessarily. Yeah. Like you might be kind of similar to the example about the lady who is an accountant for how to have for humanity. You have a really high musical, but you're not a musician, but maybe you're interested in working in the music industry or something like that, you know?

Again, I am painting these with super broad brushes here. So there's a lot of finer ways that you can analyze this and determine whether or not it's accurate. Okay, yes? Is this assessment more for our understanding of how our teammates work, or is this also for our career coaches to understand how they do? Good question. So the question was about is the point of this more about the team understanding each other, or, and or, is it about career implications?

So I will tell you that the Birkin does have a career report that I'm happy to give you if you want to see it. However, I personally don't think that's the Birkin's story. I prefer a necessity called Career Leader, okay? And you will have access to that through the CNC. The reason why I like Career Leader is because it was created by and for MBAs.

And I think because of how broad this is, you know, like literally people who are doing every job you can think of, it's categorizing you in that way. Whereas a career leader is going to give you, okay, careers in business or business adjacent, you know, I feel like that's going to give you a better, more usable information as it relates to your career. But I'll send you the report.

Um, okay, this is a good place, look at me, oh, it's tiny, okay, so let's take a parade, okay, if my watch is three seconds.

be aware of is the wi-fi network that you need to be using is emory unplugged okay that is the login you can use every guest but it's not it's kind of not as reliable so um now sometimes um as i'm telling you this and you're all looking at your phones and stuff um if there are a lot of people trying to log into emory unplugged at the same time it can be a little long so you might need to give it a few minutes but

Emory Unplugged is what you need to be locked into, and you just use your same username and password that you use to log into Opus, or your email, or Canvas, you know, that should be the same across those platforms, okay? I can't remember what the other questions were. Anything else like that, just random stuff? You got questions about it? Yes? Besides the three logins you need, are there any others that we should already have access to?

three. Opus, your email, Canvas, not yet, but there will be. Once we get into academic content, it's still Canvas, so it's not a separate platform, but I'm going to add you to the academics, Homebase, and Canvas, and there's a resource called study.net.

that will be where you go to get your cases for classes and stuff like that. Don't do anything with it right now. We'll talk about that next week, but that's another one. I think that's it for now. Yeah, I think that's it. Any other housekeeping? Yes. Do our Emory emails come with access to like Excel, PowerPoint, all that? Yes, they should. And also, that's a good question. If you go, like one thing that I do is just Google.

Emory Digital Resources or something like that and eventually it'll ask you to log in and it'll show you what's available for you as a student at Emory that you can download and have that otherwise wouldn't be available to you if you weren't a student. You still have HBO. HBO? What? Is that the name? Well that seems to me.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, any other housekeeping questions before we keep going? I'm going to talk to you about it. But we, if you have real specific after this, if you want us to talk about it. Yeah. Okay. Now, components. This is, as we say in the South, the meat and potatoes.

Okay. So we're going to move around a little bit. All right. I'm not in this room, of course, so this would be interesting. And there's a lot of people to do this with, but I think we can do it. Okay. But we'll get to that. All right. So let's talk about what these components are, what do these numbers mean, all of that stuff. So now we're on the top half of that signature sum. Okay.

So, what you need to know about these numbers, these are scales, okay? Throw out percentiles. Interest were percentiles. These are scales of intensity, okay? So, 1 in 99, equally intense, just different behaviors or different approaches, okay?

closer you get to the middle the more moderate. Now as we go through this I'm going to talk in highs and lows okay so if you have a mid-range score I'm going to give you some ways to think about that too but the highs and lows still apply to you even if your score is mid-range in any particular area. So this is my definition of what's low, what's moderate, and what's high. I think Bertrand would say

I think my low and my high is bigger than, like, if you went on the Berkman website or whatever, it might tell you some different numbers. But this is based on my script, which is 19 years. 19 years. Okay, oh, one thing that I get questions about that I don't know if it's on your mind or not, but a lot of times people want to know.

Would any of this change if you took it again? Like take it at the beginning and take it at the end of your MBA experience or any of that? Well, according to Berkman, the organization, you're only ever supposed to take a Berkman once. Okay? And for a couple of reasons. But they believe that it's the purest result because...

Most people who take the bourbon are going to get some sort of deep dive like this that we're doing. And so even if you're not trying to, you can start answering the questions in ways that you want it to show up. You know, so you can be influenced to go one way or another just based on what you know about the bourbon. So it makes it less reliable. The pieces that are more likely to change over time is your usual behavior, your needs in general. This is all in general.

if you did take it again eventually, are less likely to change, okay? All right, so anyway, getting back to this. So, 1 to 30-ish, okay, is low. 30 to 70, mid-range. 70 or higher is high, okay? Now, again, scale for the intensity.

low and the high, equally intense, different indications. Okay? And the closer you are to the middle, the more moderate, but there are some things to keep in mind that we'll talk about when we get into some specific components. This is just another way to think about it or sort of visualize it in your head. I like this one when I did my department training. They used this one and they were like, think about standing at the foot of a mountain.

Mr. One Guy over here and Mr. 99 Guy. They can't see each other. They got a whole mountain between them. They can't see what's going on on the other side. But the closer you get to the top, the easier it is to see down both sides. So the more moderate your score, we could see behavior or needs that are more indicative to the low side or the high side.

Okay, good. Make sense? Yeah, okay. Again, my report. There you go. Okay, so there are nine components. We're going to focus on just a few of them for our purposes today because I don't think we could get through all of them if we if we try to do all of them. But we'll...

If we have time after and you have questions about any one that we don't cover, then we can look at that, okay? So, these are the five that we're going to talk about, okay? So, we're going to do a little exercise here. Okay, what I want you to do is, those of you whose chairs are on this, just make sure they're kind of pushed in when you get up.

And same in the back there. So if your chair is like right up against the wall, it's like pushing in, make some space right there. Okay, here's what we're going to do. Social energy, usual behavior. That very first number that's on the page. Top of it. Okay? Before I even tell you what it is, what it means. Okay, here's what we're going to do.

going to go one here and we're going to go this way so that the middle is like kind of right there and we'll curve a little bit around in the back if we need to if we need to okay so take your report with you and position yourself where your number is

You can see everybody. I'm just going to show you. I'm going to hide that.

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situation okay all right this is not an absence or presence okay it's just again equally intense reactions just different okay all right so we're starting to lift up slowly okay so for jay what am i saying okay for jay what's your four okay oh my god okay

Thank you.

That is as middle as it can. So, here's the middle. Right? Okay. So, what the heck is this with me? Okay.

So, if we're just going by the numbers, right, on the low end, that number would suggest that these folks are more likely to come into the room and just kind of look around and observe a little bit first. See what people are doing. See how they're interacting with each other. Maybe they're going to pick a seat and go sit down for a few minutes and get themselves, like, set up and get their space set up. But they're going to kind of look around and observe before they engage.

okay, they are then going to maybe look around, maybe just the people at their table, they're going to engage with just a few people that have longer, deeper conversations, okay, they're not going to, you know, necessarily meet a lot of people in the morning session, right, but the few that they are spending time with, they're going to know more about them.

than, you know, otherwise, if they were meeting a lot of people, right? Okay, what do you think? Does that feel right? Okay, yeah, notice the, you just did a perfect, low, no, perfect, low social energy, she just went. Perfect, perfect illustration. Okay, alright.

Where are we? 74. 74. Okay, so we're already, where is 70? Okay, so it's like right here is the mid-range, and then all these people are on the high. Raise your hand if you're 99. Now, I'm 90. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Her fit's 99.

Okay. If you are on the high end, your number would suggest that your reaction to walking into a room full of strangers in this particular situation and go, look at all of the possibilities. I want to meet as many of these people as I can. Let me introduce myself and how are you?

I'm so glad to be here. They are going to approach this with, like, ease, you know. It's not that these folks are uncomfortable in social situations. That's not it. But they just, like I said, approach it differently. So these folks are going to be more about breadth, right, meeting as many people as possible, shorter conversation, but a lot of conversation. In short, these folks are going to engage with fewer people but have longer conversations.

okay you see the distinction okay now for the mid-range folks and this is true kind of for all of these components that we're talking about um your usual behavior if it's in the mid-range is an issue and you're the only one who can determine what that determining factor is what it depends on so the mid-range folks we can see them approaching it like somebody on the low end of the scale or the high end of the scale who knows maybe they would approach a work

actual work situation in one way and a school situation in another way or you know it there could be a myriad of reasons why it could change but generally speaking mid-range is and that goes for everybody when you're looking at your numbers if you have any other in any other category think it depends and you can go one way or the other okay so that's why i talk in highs and lows

Because even in the mid-range, you can think through, okay, what would my default response mean? And likely it's going to look like one of the others. And the scale and the numbers is just about intensity, right? How clear it is. Like, 99 is like, yep, that's pretty predictable. We know they're going to come in and, hey, I'm happy to be here and, you know, start collecting handshakes, right?

okay does that feel true if okay this group seems to say yes very much so yes okay what about you yeah okay it's important to notice the spread here right it's not an equal none of these well i think some of them are more of an equal distribution but these are not meant to be most people are somewhere in the middle they're not necessarily right so it is absolutely no surprise at all

you have one extreme one or the other. To demonstrate that, stay where you are for right now. Now, do it again, but go with your knee, social energy, knee.

Oh, yeah, perfect.

Go Terps. Hi. Wow. Gotcha. Okay. My wife went to start with a B.

Yeah, we're back there very often.

I think we got to see J. Cole when I was there. Can y'all hear me? Okay. Consciousness of self in one-on-one interaction. Okay? So social energy group. Consciousness.

No, that means they were blunt. It's such a double shape, right? It's all that nice. I like it. Alright. So look where our middle is. Look where our middle is. Right here. What's up? What's up? What's up?

or one-on-one interaction, particularly...

So, these folks, on the low end of the scale, direct, straight forward, here it is. On the high end of the scale, think through how they want to approach that one-on-one conversation. So, on the high end, they might, if we're like... There's been some time planning out or thinking through how we're going to have a conversation.

They're going to be like, well, I think it's nice, so here it is. They're going to be direct, straightforward, not going to be around the bush. Here it is, okay? More middle, you get, you know, it depends, right? It could depend on who it is or communicating with. It could depend on his birth or his family member or a friend. But we might need to go and be direct, okay? Now, so here's my little anecdote for this.

Let's say you are about to give a presentation in a class by yourself. It's not a team presentation. You're going to give a presentation in your class by yourself. So you find an empty classroom, and you go in. You're like, I'm going to use this space. This is for everybody. You need an audience. So you go out the hallway.

and you just pick somebody random that you don't know and you say hey do you have 10 minutes for me to just run through this presentation and you tell me what to do okay um and your approach now i gotta be careful about not switching from usually there and me okay so um

give your presentation and your audience is not a fan okay uh or maybe you're the think about reversing you're the audience and you're doing some of my feedback on your presentation um this group is going to be more likely to go and look at this by the way very prayer so they need your feedback

This group is going to be like, you know, I think if you tweet this part, it'll work better, and if you maybe switch these two slides, I think that would work better, it would flow better, and I think it'd be better if you did that. So they're giving us direct facts, straightforward feedback, right? Not rude.

not overbearing or they're not jerks all the time. But that's gonna be their approach. They're gonna be like, here it is, you know. Over here, you're the audience member and you're gonna go, okay. Well, what part is he using? Get a trophy.

Mom, how do you think you're good?

seeing my stories up a little bit the other thing i like to do in this one is a performance like if you're giving it or receiving it so if you're lost and you're giving it that that project could go well here's here's uh what needs work let's work on it you know next time this is what we need to see differently this group is going to go and it's just going to be more

I'm going to say thoughtful, but it doesn't mean thoughtless. It means they are thinking more about how they're communicating in that conversation and being more careful, whereas you guys are more here in the back. All right? Does that feel accurate over here? Yeah? What about over here? Yeah. So notice your teammates and where they are. And this is communication, how they communicate. And note that this is their default setting.

So, again, the personality, right, it makes it a little safer because, you know, I didn't have to laugh, but now you can kind of appreciate that they're coming from a place of just shooting it straight and giving it back and not really thinking about that there's more than the fact that they're going to be communicating. And this group is going to be more very careful about how they choose their word. Okay? All right. Make sense? Yeah. Okay. So now let's go.

No.

Thank you.

somebody that they trust, okay? So, it can come from anybody. They're just giving you some feedback and everyone's great, following the way, adjust. This group is more sensitive to who it's coming from, okay? If they grabbed, if they grabbed, I've been out in the hallway and grabbed a classmate or a teammate, you know, to come in the room and be the audience, they can give you the exact same feedback, and you'd be like, okay, good, tell me, you know, all right, I'm going to adjust this, I'm going to do that. That's useful information.

But if it's not somebody that you can rely on and you have that foundation, then it's like throwing it to tennis ball. It's going to be like, thank you, whatever, dismiss, you know. So it's about who it's going to be. Okay? Does that be tense? Feel true? Okay. Okay. All right. Let's move.

Go there.

Yeah.

It's not the program, like today. Yeah, there's like the keeping everyone at a close number so soon. We got to do some moments, but it took a minute, but it was worth it because just doing that exercise and giving you the visual of how different your usual and needs can be, they might be not different at all. You might have the same number for both.

is no normal okay so knowing that is going to help you read the numbers for any community you know is knowing kind of how you need to think about it and what the scale and intensity means and all of that all right so we've got three more that i want to touch on um before we adjourn um

So just keep that in mind and remember the second principle that there's no logical connection between the two. They could be crazy different or they could be similar or the same. That is where communication is critical. Regardless, your people, your team, your classmates are not going to know your needs.

unless you tell them or share your report. So this is about communication and communicating what you need to be working at your best and finding some synergy within your group. And like I said, nobody expects you to walk around and adjust how you interact with each individual based on their number. But it's just meant to be an awareness, right?

And again, creating the common language for all of you since you've all taken the burden. Okay. So. Yeah. All right. So here's some little descriptors of the other three that we're going to talk about. Assertiveness is the one. What?

Sometimes I can use the performance evaluation bit for assertiveness, but I got none. Okay, assertiveness. Think of this. Again, this is like working definitions of these words are a little bit different than a normal definition of these words. This category used to be called authority. Assertiveness is... Think of it as...

management style okay so usual behavior being how you manage when you're in a leadership position okay your needs is how you need to be managed if you are not the leader okay so thinking about like a project

by the way, that if you're a team charter, you're going to build a team charter together. And part of that process is talking to each other and determining what are the absolute rules for our team, you know, like when you're going to meet and, you know, what are hard and sacred boundaries and what's negotiable, all of that.

So, in your team, you're going to, hopefully, you're going to have a mix of highs and lows here. So, usual behavior, how you manage, mean how you prefer to be managed. So, and what's going to get the best out of you, what's going to get the best out of your budget. So, um.

Think about, so on the high end of usual behavior, think of that as a controlling approach. I know, I know. So this is another time I need to remind you, don't judge yourself on this, okay? We do not want you to adjust this. We want you to embrace.

default setting and strengthen it as the strength that it is okay so um maybe not control control is not the right word direct directing direct the word okay um so that is high end of assertiveness okay loaded assertiveness is suggested okay so uh and this is a good time to uh

notice that none of these components or even your interest categories have hard and fast boundaries. There's a lot of overlap in a lot of these, okay? There's overlap and assertiveness definitely with self-consciousness, definitely some overlap with insistence. So don't feel like it's one or the other, okay? So somebody who is...

Oh, raise your hands. Okay, so low assertiveness usual behavior, so 30 or lower, raise your hand. Usual low assertiveness usual behavior, okay. Now, high assertiveness usual behavior, 70 or higher. That's a pretty even distribution. It's that way to be. And then raise your hand if you're in the middle. Yeah. Okay, so it depends. Um, so, you're...

Low, well, I'm going to start with that. Your high assertiveness usual behavior. Again, think of director, directing. These are your folks who, I'm in charge of the team. This is my, you know, it's my turn. Oh, what I was saying earlier, can y'all tell ADD, seriously? I know I'm jumping all over and I keep going back to the point I was trying to make the board. Um, if you are, uh,

Okay, now I lost it. Y'all, it's a struggle. Okay. High assertiveness is going to be, the default setting is going to be, let me, remember how we were talking about earlier about planning, who spends more time planning at the front end and who spends less time planning at the front end. You're, um.

assertiveness people are more likely to maybe plan ahead a little bit before they come to the team with this is how I think we need to approach them. They're going to come and they're going to say based on the last project that we worked on here's the approach I think we need to take. Chris was excellent at doing data analysis and then summarizing the findings.

that, you know, we came to a solid conclusion. Morgan was great at the side construction. So your director, your high and assertiveness person, is very likely to spend more time before coming to the team coming up with a plan. Not that it's not adjustable or that they're rigid and not open to adjusting. They are. But their approach is going to be, I'm in charge, so I need to have a plan and meet the director.

If you're on the low end of assertiveness usual, then you may spend less time playing for how you're going to come to the team with how to approach the task. You're going to maybe spend less time, maybe no time, and go straight to the team and have a brainstorming session and what does everybody want to do. If you're going to gather the group's feedback and then that will determine how you move forward and what approach they do take.

Neither is right or wrong, right? Just a different growth. Okay. So then, on a need perspective, how many of you are 70 or higher need on assertiveness? Yeah. Same. Okay. 30 or lower on assertiveness? Okay. Yes. Okay. Set up. Set up.

The indication there is those of you who are on the high end need to know, if it's not me, if I'm not in charge, I need to know who it is, I need to know that they're up to the task, and I need to know what their expectations are of me as a team. On the low end of the scale, for me, they're going to prefer a broader approach.

we're hands-off approach. So it might work better for them for the leader to say okay we need you to work on the data analytics however you arrive at the final result that's up to you you know just come back to us with a result. So how they do it what their approach is the you know they don't want somebody dictating how they

the process you know but on the high end some people might prefer that you know like give me some clear guidelines give me some clear instructions so i can even know whether or not doing it the way that i'm supposed to be doing it or not um so different approach usual okay so assertiveness me now you are the team member you are not the leader for this project so

What do you need from the leader of the project in order to be, you know, the highest functioning team member that you can do? Okay, so raise your hand if you are 30 or lower on assertiveness need. I'm kind of coming to need when I was just describing it. Okay, 70 or higher on need. Hey, it's not.

I'm sorry, you guys. Lord, I need to recharge my body. Okay, moderate. So remember, moderate is independence, right? So if your usual behavior in the middle, one of your strengths might be being able to quickly analyze the situation and determine what sort of leadership your team needs.

You might, you know, that might be a particular strength for you to be able to adjust to being more hands-on or being more hands-on based on the needs of your team. That's the, it depends. Now, on the need side, the balance is the key, right? So, you just need a balance of, give me some general guidance. I like to know kind of what the expectations are, but also...

Let me have some freedom to get to this the way that I need to get to it and come back to you with the result. I'm sorry. I feel like I was all over the place on that. Does that make sense? Okay. Okay. Insistence. I think of assertiveness and insistence as similar. Assertiveness being sort of the people approach to your management style.

And insistence being the process approach to your leadership management side, okay? So, if you are on the high end of insistence, usual behavior. 70 or higher, usual behavior. Woo! Yeah! Okay. 70 or higher. 30 or lower, insistence, usual. Okay.

So, this is your approach to details, structures, systems, okay? We're not talking about media, usual behavior. So, now you're at work, and you're in charge of the media, okay? If you are on the high end of usual behavior, then you're more likely to come to that meeting.

a detailed agenda. This is what we are going to discuss. It is going to be thorough. You might have sub bullets, you know, to guide the conversation in the meeting. If somebody goes off course, the high insistence usual is going to go, yes, I hear you. Let's come back to that and we're going to stay the course on our conversation. Okay?

low insistence, as usual, might have three bullet points for the agenda. Just, you know, three broad topics we need to discuss, and if somebody gets de-brailed and changes the subject or goes left, then they're going to be like, oh, tell me more. You know, they're going to follow it and see where it goes. So it's just about approach to structure and details, okay?

Now, if you're on the need side, think about what you prefer if you're in the need, you know. So you see the similarities between assertiveness and insistence. So do you prefer to have a detailed agenda or do you prefer a broader approach so that the conversation can go where it goes and it's fine and no big deal? Okay.

Good? That was fast. Okay. We're getting there. Okay. Thought. This is one of my favorites to talk about. Because it's so easy to conceptualize. So thought, I think, should be called decision making. Because that's what we're talking about. How much time and information do you need to make decisions? Okay? So, usual behavior.

How much time and information do you need to make relatively less significant decisions, okay? So, like, toothpaste. I need some toothpaste. What toothpaste am I going to get? The low thought, which sounds terrible, which is why I don't think this is a good name for this category. But the low thought person...

It's going to be like, I need toothpaste, and you go to the grocery store, and you go, here's the toothpaste, grab the toothpaste, and keep it moving. Okay? The high thought, usual, 92, is going to be in the details. Reading the box, reading the label on the shelf. This one has baking soda, this one is whitening, but this one is extra whitening, and which one do I need?

So this one is $0.12 per unit, and this one is $0.15 per unit, so that one's a better deal. So these are the things that those of us that are high-to-usual suffer with. Right? Who's with me? You're my fellow sufferers. Yeah, you know. You've got stuff. Maybe not on the toothpaste aisle somewhere. Right? And...

The low usual folks are going to come to the grocery store, have grabbed their toothpaste and kept it moving, and they're ready to check out, and you're still on the toothpaste aisle, the high usual, okay? So this is a little bit different in that the usual numbers indicate, again, your thought process and decision-making process for relatively, and that's an important word, because if you're a dentist, it's probably more important to spend a little time thinking about the toothpaste.

But if you're not, then maybe not, you know, so it's a relative thing. So, usual behavior, less significant decisions, need, more significant decisions. So this one's a little, doesn't follow the same kind of logic of usual, except that we can observe somebody standing in the toothpaste aisle and struggling to make a decision. The need side is going to tell us.

How much time and information do you need to make, relatively speaking, like, could be a life-altering decision type of decision, okay? So, you know, that's harder to observe. Where am I going to go to get my MBA? That was pretty easy. All right, good. That was easy, yeah. Okay.

I have something, which house am I going to buy? Do I want to marry this person? That's a big decision, right? So, how much time and information do you need to make those decisions? Most people, but not everybody, you know, has a lower usual behavior and a higher need in this category, but not necessarily. And some stress reactions to that.

Somebody that is a high thought, need, bias, remorse is a stress reaction, right? I've made the decision, but I'm not sure I made the right decision, you know? Somebody on the low end of me is going to be more...

I made it, you know, okay, these are my options, pick one, and then second guessing the options, I guess they're kind of both buyers for more, but in a different way. You know, you're sort of re-litigating it, and maybe I didn't spend enough time, or I didn't gather enough information to be making this decision. And this is an important one for your team, too, because you want diversity on this in your team, because those of us that are high thought,

analysis paralysis. And those of you that are low thought might make the decision a little too quickly. So the low thought people can get the high thought people unstuck. And the high thought people can make sure that the low thought people have considered everything that they need to consider before they make the decisions. Does that try? No? Okay. Yes.

What if you have high usual and low needs? You are weird. My brain is offline. Now some of you will have... So there's a scoring norm for each category. And the scoring norm for this one in particular is higher usual, lower usual, higher need. Lower usual, higher need. If it's reversed...

going to notice that when you're going through the report the best way to think about that is you have your stress behavior it looks the opposite of what you need okay so yeah so so what is your what's your D 32 32 okay so actually you know it's more inclined to make the decision and if you remember the professor I was telling you about Peter talking about he was a low D

And he often will talk about he got offered this job and just accept, you know, and then start to second guess, oh, crap, maybe I didn't, maybe I didn't, you know, spend enough time. So your stress reaction then is overanalyzing, which is the opposite of what you need, you know. So those are a little bit trickier to just conceptually, but if you see that.

Then, also in your report, the subsequent pages, there's a one pager for each component. It's going to describe your usual means and stress, your usual means and stress for each component. If that jives with, you know, you feel like that's accurate, that's really all that matters, you know, if it feels right. Yeah. Let's see.

let's see. 10 minutes. Those are the components we'll go through for now. We can talk about more later. Not today. But these are your averages for our class, which I probably won't be a surprise since we did that kind of moving around the room. So you guys are a really high usable social energy, kind of mid-range need.

Low self-consciousness, so pretty direct and straightforward, but not, you know, it's not the extreme. And then mid-range in terms of your needs, so balance. And it matters a lot who the information is coming from. Assertiveness, very mid-range here. So it depends, and that's important to know about your teammates, right? Is what's going to work best for you to be.

And for you, so your needs are also memorized. Really high usual on insistence. So you guys in general are an organized, detail-oriented bunch. Not everybody, but in general. But, you know, prefer if you have a list of instructions and it was very detailed, 1 to 37.

tells you do it exactly this way and don't ask questions just do it this way then it's not great if you're on the high or I'm sorry low end of insistence because well I don't know why you know so it's worth appreciating the little nuance differences okay um and then thought we just talked about so little note about the bourbon map so here's what it looks like

Now, you notice there are four symbols there, but you have a tiny only three on your chart, right? That's because needs and stress go together on each other, okay? And remember, that is because stress, your stress behavior is nothing more than a reaction to your needs not being missed. So it depends entirely on what your needs are.

When you're looking through the pages of your report, for most everybody, in most categories, your needs and stress are the same number. When you get to those one-pagers for each component. But, for those of you like what we were just talking about, when your scoring pattern is opposite of the norm, you can have a different number for your stress behavior.

through those pages and I think that would be helpful. And then that first, before those usual needs stress pages, there's a page, I think this is Coaching to Needs, and I included that where it is because it's just a good, like, two-sentence summary of your usual behavior needs for in each of the components. Okay? Thank you.

Okay. How to use it. Focus on understanding the components, particularly the ones that are most intense for you. And it does, I will often get questions about what does it mean if they're really far apart or really close together. And I think just a general note about that is the further apart they are, the more you are at risk of being misunderstood.

You know, for somebody that doesn't know the purpose and doesn't know that needs and usual behavior are not necessarily connected, they might make assumptions about you based on your usual behavior. And if your needs are really different, then they would be wrong. So, communications. Okay? So, looking at this understanding components in, you know, the most intense.

Think about your experiences, think about your anecdotes and how you would, how you've seen these play out in your life. And then identify your stress behaviors. What can you do about it? How can you manage them? And how can you identify them in each other? Right. And then thinking about, again, kind of going back to the beginning, how are other people perceiving? How do I perceive them?

And is it what your intention is, like, because you're going to be intentional about how you're showing up for each other. And about taking a few minutes to stop and evaluate that every once in a while will be important so you can make sure you're getting your thoughts there, right? Okay. Yes? Oh, all right. First time I've pulled you a question.

Ah, you did it! I didn't even know it is. I need a quick question. OK. I answered false in a lot of things about what I believe about other people. OK. Simply because I don't have to say how other people think and how they act. Sure. So I don't know how fair that will translate into my results when that's the case. If it doesn't, yeah, yeah, I get that. So if it doesn't feel accurate, like your results, then

that might be why. It does feel like you're going for it. So really, that is more about your perception of other people. It's not about you predicting how other people act. It is, do I believe that I am more assertive than other people? You know, I think that's one of the sections where you ask me that. And that's what determines, you know, your perception of yourself and your perception of other people. It's just your perception

how you're experiencing other people. Yeah. Other questions? I know. It's going to stay between you and here. Okay. I have a bonus for you. Now, this is going to evoke a lot of questions. But we're not going to do that. Because you need to go and let some air out of the tires today.

So I'm going to show you this, take a picture of it, but no, I am going to explain it in detail, and it's not immediately obvious what all the answers are, okay? But since y'all were asked to be, here it is. And also, human error is possible if I'm data entry. There it is. So, to answer...

One of your questions from earlier is at 8.30 every day, and I said yes, actually no. There are two days a week that you're at 8.30, and two days a week that you start at 10. And they, so A and B are different, right? So B starts at 8.30 on Monday, Wednesday, A starts at 8.30 on Tuesday, Thursday.

Okay. When you, hang on, let me just explain these couple things. When you see where it's split like that, that means that that class on the top of the split ends at the midterm period. Okay. So the midterm is actually your final thing and that's econ. Finance 501 is econ.

ISOM 551 is Process and Systems Management, it's like your operations class. So, when it's time for midterms, for econ you're going to have a final exam. And then after career week, after that break in the middle, Process and Systems Management will begin. So, like your first class is going to be after career week.

slides into the same footprint as Econ. Okay? So, kind of the same thing down here, 1-2.15, you see VUS 5.10 is Structured Problem Solving. Okay? That class also ends at the halfway point of the semester. After that, we're going to have some program office sessions for you where we cover some things like how to register.

give you a preview of electives that are coming up. We'll talk about global study options. You know, just, it's sort of like a continuation of onboarding, but spread out through the semester to just touch on things that are important in that time, at that particular point in the semester. Okay? Professional development is BUS 594. It doesn't meet every week, but when it does...

Section A will meet on Tuesdays at 2.30, and Section B will meet on Wednesdays at 2.30 for professional development. Again, not every week. So that's why there's that little asterisk there. All right, that's that, but I'll, yes. Yeah, so I would like to say that from Section A, so all these classes are going to happen.

Oh, no, no, no, no, they'll be in different rooms. In different rooms. Yeah. So your core classrooms will be on that same floor where we did the sections and the team stuff. So you have pretty much three-ish classes every day. So there'll be, you know, you'll move between classrooms for those, okay? But you'll stay in your section.

Okay. I reserve the right to correct myself on Monday if I have made an error here. Okay. But I know this is important to you. The reason why we don't give it to you in advance is because it requires a little bit of playing. I told you the Fridays that you're going to, or I told, did I tell you? Okay. So August 28th, September 4th, September 18th. You will have Friday classes. That's it. And I'm going to show you exactly what means on those days and for how long.

the first two weeks is going to be marketing marketing so it doesn't follow

But, so, there's a little bit of findings in that week, too. So, the first week after next week, your first week with us, after onboarding, is marketing. On that Monday, you're going to have a morning marketing session and afternoon marketing session. On Tuesday, you're going to have morning marketing. One section of you will have findings in the afternoon.

Okay? And there's a professional development thing in there, too. On Wednesday, marketing in the morning, and the other section has finance in the afternoon. Okay? And then, there's a couple of professional development sections in there, too. Friday, you have marketing. Yes, marketing in the morning, nothing to do. Okay? In your second week...

Mostly just marketing in the morning, 8.30 to 11.30. You will have one day where you have professional development that week, but otherwise, no, nothing in the afternoon. Okay? And then, after those two weeks, that's when this starts. Okay?

Yes, it's Monday through Friday, correct, week of the 10th, week of the 17th, so Monday through Friday for the first two weeks, but mainly in the morning. Oh, yes, I'm going to go through all of this in great detail next week, but I just wanted to give you a snapshot of this. Yes. Yes. Thank you.

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