ISO 13849‑1 성능 수준 C 달성 방안

So I share my screen. We can see that. So yeah, this is the proposal from Aplas now. And Chan-Ching, did you have the time before to see this proposal? Yeah, I have already checked. And what is your opinion so far? I have some questions about this part.

The first scene is here. The first scene is here. The 5, 10, 3 position. And which kind of performance level you could arrive? You can't leave this? I mean this here? Or here, 5 part, 3 position. I mean this new design combined with the button, this also circle which can't from the person right

What is that meaning exactly? The performance could not arrive? Based on the Ease Zone 1, 384, 9-1, normally based on your risk assessment, at least performance level C should be arrived. This part should be in safety, or I mean, part of the part, and could arrive performance level C. It could be not D, because not D would need a double candle.

So, you know the thing is that we sometimes lost your voice. So, there are some words that are missing. I mean, it's performance level. Yes. Performance level, you could write. Performance level, CDRE. Performance level, CDRE. Yeah. Because if you want to write, where is it? Because it's level E.

I think you need a double channel, but not only one channel. So when it comes to performance B, can you share the details of it? Because we are not quite familiar with it. So last time when we met us at the machine, you did a picture for my notes. And there stands performance level C, and the distance and the ISO standard.

And then you shared with Jung-Hui, so with the designer. Yes, and... Do you remember? Yes, but like what is the point? How to say, like yeah, we remember the points that we talked about regarding the ISO standard. That's for sure. And what was the question exactly? Because... Somehow like... I think it's a message. Okay.

Okay. I'm actually drawing something. I don't know if I can't. I don't know if I can't. I don't know. I can't see anything. I can't see anything. I can't see anything. Hello? Yeah, I think Cha Chang is right now searching. Oh, okay. Okay, just let me show, I think. Okay, let me just double check the photo of it because we...

I remember that he mentioned the ISO standard and we should follow it. Yeah, that's for sure. And performance level. A, B, C, D. This one. I'm sure you're going to be talking about the fact that you're going to be talking about the people.

This is the ISO 1349. And I want to know after your design, which performance level you can arrive. I get it. So now, the ISO is the standard. So, Chan Chang, right now I see only a white screen.

Are you sharing right now? No. Who is that? I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Yeah, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I understand the photo to you. No problem. I can't believe it. We have the photo of it, for sure. Okay. But the ISO standard is A to G level. What level is it? I'm not sure. I'm not sure what level is.

iso 13849-1 이거든요. 저거 저쪽이 물어봐야 되시거든요. 13 뭐라고요? 13849-1 맞아요. 13849-1고요. 13849요? 네네. iso. 이거 등급명이어야 되는 거라서 네네. 그러니까 저 등급에 따라서 ABCD가 되어있는데 네. 요거 한 번 더, please.

이거 제가 할 때 안전자 빈조사 대비도 같이 봤었나요? 컴퓨터였고 지금 제가 기억한 건 IS13851? 그거 하나? 스위치 간격 그거밖에 못 봤는데? 와우 프로그랜스 핸드폰 이게 18851이 나오네 아직 안전자 빈조사는 없는데? 아직 안전자 빈조사는 없는데? 아직 안전자 빈조사는 없는데? 아직 안전자 빈조사는 없는데? 아직 안전자 빈조사는 없는데? 아직 안전자 빈조사는 없는데?

Now I have it. Now I have it. Now we have it in the chat. I think I will be able to answer the mic. The thing is that we have to double check for this because we have to double check and get back to you for this question. And the question from our end is that which level are you expecting?

Basically this depends on your risk assessment and I just checked your design now. I think maximum you can arrive at the Borgon's level C. But Borgon's level C, from my side it is okay for this case because I know that it's on my other, but it's not so high on other. And C is okay, but you should show us we can arrive C. So do you want us to... I mean, how to say it? You say our level is let's say C. And what is your expectation then?

My expectation is C, but I don't know if you can really arrive Greek C. I get it. I get it. Can you transfer us the material regarding this standard, please? Like the materials that which is related to this, this, um,

엔지니어가 알거라고 하시거든요. 구글 좀 해주셔도 되고. 일단은 찾아본도 하고. 여기서 답변 중에 어려울 것 같아요. 네. 그래서 제가 확인하고 다시 돌아보도록 하겠습니다.

Okay. You see also this team calculation in the chat. When you open the chat here for this meeting. There is a system calculation in the chat. You can see it. There is a system calculation in the chat. Okay, just let us double check. We will go to the next question. Can we go to the second question?

The second question is like I saw your distance calculation. I think it's okay. You said you have survived around 600 mm. I'm fine. And the last time I also mentioned to you, we requested the type 3 double hand button. That means the different delay time to push the button is maximum 0.5 second. This you should confirm with your software engineering or PLC engineering to do the right programming.

Can you repeat that please regarding the tap 3 part because... The tap 3 that is means that if I push the button, if I push the button at the same time, the maximum tolerance for the deep breath is 0.5 seconds. You can also find this in the 13851. This is the power right in here. You're right in here. Yeah, you're right in here. Yeah, where is here? Aha.

You saw that? You have the second page. Yeah. Right here, the two-hand control. The requirement is 13851, and you can find more requests about Type 3. We request here is Type 3. Type 3, Type 3, right? Yeah. Yeah. But when you refer C13851, it's the ISO, correct? Yeah. Okay. I can hold the mic. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

계시는 건지 언급은 해 주셨던 것 같은데 가지고 있다는 게 무슨 말이죠? ISO138512 기준이란 말이죠. 보통 이런 걸 획득을 하거든요. 근데... 획득을 해야 된다? 아니 획득을 해야 되는데 지금 여기서 말하는 건 ISO138512-타입3가 필요하대요. 인증이 필요하다. 네. so you mean that we should follow the ISO standard of 13851

그리고 타입 3, 그리고 이 기준으로 인증을 해야 할 수 있겠죠? 인증은 안 받으셔도 되고, 따르기만 하면 됩니다. 그 규정에 따라서 하는거죠? 네, 맞습니다. 세 번째 타입을 따라주시면 되구요. 다시 1이 아니라 다시 3이란거에요? 138, 152 안에 타입이 여러 타입이 있습니다. 그 중에 타입 세 번째 걸 따라주시면 됩니다.

So in the change so for the seconds you mentioned it's 0.75 seconds so it means when I put my hand in the light curtain then the direction should be maximum 0.75 seconds or how to understand the right thing I need two hands right but sometimes I will not put it in the same time okay and I will have some

I have tolerance for them. For example, I have a hand curve. Aha. You can press the button and press the button. And the button will not be able to press the button. There will be a difference between the button and the button. But the button will be able to press the button. If you find more than zero, I will call it by the same time. That's right. Okay, this is well understood. I need to check that out. I need to check that out. So let us discuss about this with our electrical team.

Okay, thank you. This is what we want. You can just search it as Type 3. I will send the chat and then... And this part, I also have a question. You can go back to the last page. Last page. Six or six. Yes. Yes. Second page?

second page. Okay, second page. Yep. And I have also got a question, yeah? For this page, my question is how should I know the cylinder will come out or go into the machine? Because you have only one button, how should the machine know this time I should go back or not go out? Or something like this. How to do the logic. So, so you mean the... Because you need first to go back to...

I missed, for example, if I want to load in material. First time I put a button and let the cylinder come out. And then I put the material on it and push the button again and go in. But how to know that because this button, for example, if I stop to push the button, it stops the wrong level stop. And then if I put it a second time, how should the machine know they should continue to go to this structure or they should go back? What is the logic behind it?

Okay, so your question is that first of all, when you push the button, right? Two buttons, right? And then you want to know how the cylinder works exactly. Is that correct? Yeah. How the cylinder will go to which direction? How do you know that? So the cylinder will move, right? The cylinder will move, right? How do you know how the cylinder is moving?

대해서 얘기를 해달라고요. 작업자가 누르고 있는데 왜 그걸 또 알아야 되는 거냐 그게 좀 이해가 안 되거든요. 멈추고 난 뒤인 것 같은데 우리가 일단 위에서 내려오는 거랑 가는 건 눈으로 확인하고 누르니까 됐는데 가다가 멈추거나 작업자가 뗀다가 다시... 그건 몰라요. 알 수 없어요. 최초 가던 방향은 알 수 없어요. 근데 다시 작동시키면 그 최종 가던 방향으로 가는 거죠? 아니요. 그냥 서있나요? 그냥 지정하세요. 여기서 원하는 방향으로 턱의 안쪽 아니면 오피쪽이나 둘 쪽 하나로는 해줄 수 있어요. 근데 얘가 원래 같은 방향이 어딘지는 몰라요. 그거는. 아, 그럼 세팅을 미리 하셔야 된다는 말씀이신 것 같아요.

그러니까 일단은 중간에 섰을 때 다시 양식 버튼 누르다가 하나 떼서 섰어요. 근데 그 순간 걔가 어디 갔는지 몰라요. 그거는. 그 순간은 몰라요. 근데 다시 뭔가 미스에서 선다면 방향을 조정할 수 있어요. 원하는 방향으로. 근데 문제는 여기는 하나는 그거예요. 관점이, 제가 좀 얘기해봤는데 단순히 이거를 탈비를 눌러서 뭔가 안쪽에다 나왔어요 그때. 작업자 실수로 하나 손을 뗐어요 그때. 걔는 방향을 알 것 같다고 보기에는 제가 어렴풋하게 봤어요. 근데 만약에 라이트 커튼에 걸려서 섰어요 그때. 그때는 몰라요.

정보가 다 달라갔기 때문에 장비가 서면서 일단은 방향은 모른다 작업자가 수집사에서 딱 중간에 넣다가 떼서 다시 누르면 작동 안 된다는 얘기잖아요 그러니까 이제 정확한 제어랑 채창이가 얘기해봤는데 일단 누르다가 하나를 뗐어요 만약에 예를 들어서 반일단 나오다가 뗐어요 근데 그 순간에는 다시 누르면 가던 방향 갈 것 같아요 제가 못 때냐 근데 문제는 섰는데 라이트 커텐 걸리면 그때가

그러면 전원이 떨어질 때 알 수 없어. 그러면 뗐다가 잠깐 눌렀다가 한 손을 떼면 다시 누르면 가던 방향으로 갈 것 같은데 확인하셔야 하고 제어 쪽하고 얘기해서 확인해서 답변 주겠다. 문제는 잠깐 라이트 커튼 걸렸을 때는 날아가 전원을 떨어져서 몰라요. 그러면 공고가 날아가서 방향을 잡을 수 있기 때문에 만약에 두 번쩍을 당겨서 한 손을 잡고 한 손을 꺼낼 수 있어요.

then it stops right and if i push it back with the with the one that i take it off then normally we assume yeah we have to double check with the electrical team however we assume that um the how to say it goes the direction where um how to say where it originally planned however for example if i i mean on the moment where i am where i uh my my fingers off i mean

I mean, like on that moment when this part is on the light curtain, then the all information is deleted because the equipment is shut down. And then we don't know the direction that it goes. Yeah, this is my question because of Nadia. You know, maybe during the cylinder running phase, if I stop, maybe not in the end position, and then I need to continue this work or I need to manually move this to end position.

This is a very interesting part, how to use only one part, two-hand button to finish all this logic. You need to come out, you need to come back. Yeah, this is not so easy from my side. I think you need to think about this part. So like when you say that not easy from your end, it means that... How does it mean exactly? So here on this page is only manually, right? So when the machine stopped, then you have to do manually the whole thing to bring back to the...

Yeah, because I also have to mention one thing, because you use cylinder, because the spectrification of cylinder, if this cylinder does not stop in the middle position or end position, the moving of cylinder will be quite changed. Maybe they will be running very fast.

This is because of special design for the cylinder itself. I don't know how about your position or how about your, how to say, pneumatic circles. We need to, maybe sometimes we need to outside check about your design. Because now it's like you will always let the cylinder run into the end position. We don't have this issue. But if we push the forehand button and we have some like, a case like maybe the cylinder cannot always run into the end position. And in this case, any restart of the machine will be dangerous sometimes. You need to talk with your engineer and how about this case.

예를 들어서 실린더가 가다가 중간에 멈추거나 이러면 다시 시작하는 게 위험할 수도 있다고 본인은 생각을 해서 이거에 관해서 다시 시작하지 않고 할 수 있는 방법이 있으면 한번 엔지니어랑 얘기를 해봐다가 실린더가 중간에 멈췄다가 가비가 다시 살리면 갑자기 작동하고 위험할 수가 있는 게 네 그렇죠 그렇죠 그러면 작업자가 아까 감지됐을 때 시나리오와 똑같이 그냥 우리는 다시 누르면 움직이는 게 아니라 무조건 안전치까지 끌던가 밀던가 화면을 지금 일단 중간에 다 뗐어요 일단 라이트 커튼이 안 걸렸어 이거

다시 누르면 빨리 일단 확인해 봐야 되겠지만 빨리 다시 누르면 가던 방향으로 온다 맞죠? 근데 얘가 중간에 다 못 넣었어요 못 넣고 그냥 떼서 뭐 1년 2, 30분 있다 왔어 라이트 커튼에 걸리지 않았지만 있다 왔는데 보니까 잘못 들어간 게 보여요 손은 밀면 들어가요? 일참은 대기 위치는 소홀벨프 자체가 중간 배기 타입이어서 방 3개 중에 한쪽은 여기로 미는 거고 한쪽 방은 여기는 거고 그 3개 있는 방은

양쪽에 있는 에어를 앞을 다 빼는 거야 해요. 그래서 손으로 밀 수 있어요. 아카면은 방 3개인 게 그 이유가 없네요. 소메웨이드 배로 방 3개인 게. 아카면은 중간에 멈추면 무조건 손으로 당겨 할 수 있겠네요. 당기고 미는 건 가능해요. 아카면 그렇게 설명하죠. 음 그럼 중간에 멈추면 실린더. 사람 손으로 이걸 밀고 당길 수 있다. 네. 그렇게. 매거진을. 네. 스택 캐리어 매거진이 아니고. 아아. 캐리어 캐리어 테이블을 손으로 밀고 당길 수 있다. 음.

So for example, if it stops on the middle point, for example, then the operator can take that off manually. So even though it doesn't go to the end position, and for example, if it is stopped, I don't know, like between the middle and the end position somehow, and then the operator can just put it out manually. Put it in or put it out? Yeah, put it in and put it out manually. Yeah.

So it means when it's in the middle position stopped, somehow, and between end and start position, then the operator brings the table to a safe position, to the end position or to the start position, and then it can turn off the machine again, right? So you can do it both. So either you push until the end or you take out until the start point.

I'm fine for it, but we need to on-site test how heavy is this part. I think maybe we're not so heavy. Maybe it's possible for the operator, only one operator finish this, but we need to on-site test about that. And the second thing is that maybe we need some special... ...is it not. It's actually what? Can we connect the chairs so good right now?

Hello? Okay, please for the envelope. Remove it. Sorry? Could you repeat this, Chen Cheng? So the connection was bad? Yeah, sorry. That means that maybe we need some special note kits or something like that to tell our operator that if the cylinder is not in the middle position, not in the end position or stop position, it manually removes it. Yeah. And also your logic and also your programming, I think I don't know if you should have the position sensor for cylinder, right? You know if the cylinder is in the end or not.

Do you have any contact sensor for your cylinder? Can I ask you the reason behind your question? I mean like... I mean that if some like safety design should be like if the cylinder is not in the middle of the start position, you cannot start the cylinder to moving. This is what I mean.

Sorry? Can you repeat that please? So when the table is in the middle position between start and end position, then there is no detection from a sensor or do you have sensors that says, okay, now I'm in the end position or in the start position, but what is in the case when we are in the middle? So is there a sensor who can detect it in the middle or what is happening then?

So you want to know the location of the stick carrier, like if it stops in the middle or the like, I don't know, like in any any position which should not be the start or the end, right? So, so normally when it's black table is here in the middle position. Yes. So and the one I left one button with my hands and normally it stops here in the middle. So in this case,

So what happens? When does the machine know where is my table right now? Is it there?

위치를 이거든요. 스타리어 스타트 엔드는 감지 센스 있지 않아요? 포인트 대 포인트는 실린다는 것은 처음부터 여섯 세어까지 왕복하니까 끝에 대한 감지 위치는 있는데 중간은 없죠. 중간은 없고 끝은 있잖아요. 처음과 끝에 밀어넣으면 그건 감지가 되잖아요. 끝에 도착하면 도착하면 감지가 되니까 스타트 엔드는 감지가 있는데 중간은 눈으로 볼 수 밖에 없다는 거죠. 그리고 엔드로 안 밀리면

어차피 장비에서 인지를 못하잖아요. 가다가 중간에 이만큼 쯤에서 멈췄어요. 그러면은? 장비가 스타트, 엔드, 라인을 간지를 못하니까 중앙이 있다는 뜻이에요. 왜냐하면 그 선거법이라고 얘기하면 돼요. 선거법이 3개의 포지션인데 2개의 포지션을 알아요. 무조건 한 개는 우리인지 알잖아요. 그 뜻이에요. 네, 그래서 저희가 원하는 시작을 알 수 있게끔은. 그는 끝에 있는 원하는 시작을 알 수 있게끔은.

But we don't know if it is in the middle point, basically. So what we can... Yeah, that means we know if it is in the end position or something, it is enough. Because that means if it is not in the two positions, then it is in the middle position. Yeah, then it is in the middle. Okay, then you have some like interrupt to see that if the cylinder is not in the end position or in the start position, the cylinder cannot move. This is important. That's right. That's right. If it is not in the middle of the cylinder, it will be a safety chakra. Yes, that's right. That's right.

If we don't have the sensor, we will not turn the sensor. We will not turn the sensor. So anyway, we have the sensor from the start point and end point. For example, if it is on the middle point, we get the alarm. And the sensor from the two points,

doesn't receive the signals. Yeah, and in this case your machine can, not your whole machine, but this part cannot move, and the cylinder cannot move. This is important. So this is manually so, and then at the end, I wrote here in the chat, so we need, in this case, when it's somewhere in the middle stopped, we need a failure message in the HDMI, that the operator knows what he should do. Please put manually the stack carrier table in start or end position.

Okay, so we'll talk about this with the electrical team, control team and get back to you. About this. Yep. Okay. Then I think I'm only one question about you writing here. Because for the light curtain, basically the logic bit to the light curtain. I think you should add some kind of muting function for your light curtain if I push the two buttons.

If I stop to push the tool button, for sure the light curtain will be reworking and maybe we will activate some e-stop. We can only do that because this is only one safe way. I know maybe they will have some influence on your production quality or quality, but I don't have too much better solutions because that means they might need to do more changes. But I think also you need to write this in your menu or some operations menu to tell us, okay, if the software is not working,

some happen emergency case happen and release the double hand button machine will be active light curtain is gone. Just some light or information to us is enough. Otherwise we cannot do more. I agree with your writing here I can understand but this is only one way. So let me just summarize your request. It's basically you want us to write this in the manual. Is it correct?

Yeah. The one that we just talked about, right? Only some information for us. Yeah, just like a warning. If you, during the moving, release the two-hand button, maybe, how to say, active the light curtains function, and the machine will stop activate. Something like this, yeah. So let me just summarize once again. So, as Mark requested, Mark just wrote down on the chat

you need an alarm, right? This is the second topic. This is not about any last topic. This is second thing. Because now if we read your PowerPoint, the last two pages, this cuts about one thing. It's the light curtain. Yeah, light curtain. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. And the question is that during the the running, if I stop to push the button, maybe machine will activate light curtain and the machine will go to stop. Yeah. And the machine will stop. Yes. It's only twice now. We cannot do more, but

But this is a special warning you should write in the operation manual. Okay, if operator during the movement release the button, the light curtain will be active. Okay. So, let me just translate this first. So, if you press the button button, you can press the button button. Then the light curtain will usually open. So, you can use the manual to use the manual.

그 작업자가 그걸... 꼭 그걸 다 밀어야 된다고. 그 아니면 중간에 서면 뭉친다고. 공부를 적었다고. 오케이. 한 번만 더 보인다. 오케이. 네. 우리는 그걸 할거에요. 그리고 여기에도 하나의 내용이 있어요. 여기에서, 라이트 크루트가 압티나 안 압티나 안 압티나는 게 괜찮아요. 이건 괜찮아요. 이건 큰 문제에요. 그리고 하나의 내용은, 라이트 크루트가 압티나 안 압티나는 게 좋습니다. 그래서 이 기능은 이미 공부에 도착합니다.

그냥 신선을 다 설정하고, 알람을 다시 설정하고, 마신을 다시 시작할 수 없죠. 두 번째는 HMI, 메세지 에러, 메뉴얼 이렇게 세 개만 하면은 이건 OK죠.

디자인 전체적으로는 오케이 라서 일단은 다른 거는 지금 첫 번째 퍼포먼스 C레벨을 맞추면은 설계적으로는 바꿀 것이 없거든요. 그건 그대로 나갈 거고 나머지는 프로그램적으로 하는 거라서 일단 이거 우리가 한 우리 액션 아이템을 얘기할게요. 이거 PLC레벨 이것만 일단 우선 확인해서 C레벨 안에 들어오면 우리는 설계를 진행해서 바로 발주를 하겠다. 아, C레벨을 맞추면 설계... 이렇게 설계 진행을 해서 일단 준비를 하겠다.

Let me just summarize this. Let us try to follow the standard of the ISO so that we can achieve the level C. And when it happens, we're going to do the design and then ready for everything. We can also show this cost of putting you another material loading area.

Yeah. Mark, what's his name? What was that? No. This area. Can I just... Can I just show something? This is a modeling, but I'll just... We'll have to ask you a little bit more. This area... This area, I think, is the... You know that? Where is that? I know that. I know that. We will share... Our screen. Our screen. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah.

One moment please. Okay.

It's on the left side. So you can choose the camera. You can only do the CAD program. Can you see the camera? Is it still there? Yes. The whole model is a bit heavy and difficult to handle it. It's hard to handle it. This is part of it. The program is pretty heavy. It's better for us to show you this than the other one.

이런 식으로 전체 커버링 할 거고요. 그래서 이 커버의 이미지의 그림을 할 거고요. 겉에 눌러먹을 때

지금 이제 정전할게요. 지금 나왔어요. 요건 나왔고, 도착했고 이걸 열리면은 이거 여기에 모델링이 보면은 지금 도어랑 스위치가 여기 있어요. 정금 창치가 있는데, 스위치를 한번 눌러서 요걸 락을 한번 해제해야 여기서 정금 해제되고 요런 식으로 열린다. 조금만 더 땡겨. 빨리 좀 더 땡겨. 예. 예. 예. 예. 예. 예. 예.

And you know there is a switch, I mean the lock switch which is a red one. So you push this button one time and then it will be unlocked. So that you can open it. So we're gonna show you. When it is unlocked then the operator can open up this cover. Like this.

So right now we have the button at the machine, so there stands like a thing muting, so for light curtain off. And then you press the button that the empty magazine comes out right now, yes? Yes, so we... You mean, still the button at the machine will have the function here together with this cover, right? So when I push the button, bring out the magazine, and then I can open the cover.

So you mean that... we are going to talk about it very soon. We are supposed to talk about it. So... My final question is what we should do with the light curtain muting button. So they were going to be removed.

아, 라이트 커튼 아예 없어져요? 네, 없어져요. 이 커튼을 사용하면, 이 커튼을 제거하면, 이 커튼을 제거할 수 있습니다.

He's hand inside of the machine so that you don't need any light curtain. Correct? Yeah. You need it. But you need it. If I go to the top, I will go to the top. So, right now, where the shamel screen is, right now, here's the opening window. And then it drives here into it. So, yes.

그래서, 이 불을 사용할 수 있는 건 없나요? 아니면, 아직 필요할 수 있는 건가요? 아직 필요할 수 있는 건가요? 제가 커버에 닫으면, 제 손을 제거할 수 있는 건가요? 일단 필요하다는 게 있잖아. 왜냐하면 커버가 있어도, 넣을 때 이렇게 넣어서, 팔을 넣을 수도 있으니까.

Or you can do some easy things that if I open the cover, the light curling will be active. If I close the cover, the light curling will be deactivated. If it is your need, then we can do that too. If you have the light curtain, the light curtain will be better.

then this design suits you, right? So that, can you confirm this so that we can prepare ourselves for this? In time. In time. Could you repeat what it means? Yes, so it means that the first request from you is that you need the light curtain, right? Yeah, we need that. Muting button. And the muting button. No, no muting button. Muting button, we don't need that. Okay. You can do some automatic muting. Yeah. You can come back with your logic.

그렇게는 안되고 그렇게 하면 또 전장하고 다 바꿔야 돼서 무슨 얘기인거에요 지금? 그러니까 지금 라이트 커튼은 필요한데 뮤팅 버튼은 필요가 없다 자동 뮤팅이 됐으면 좋겠다 그러니까 얘네 얘기는 제가 이한게 맞으면요 지금은 빈명버지는 이렇게 나왔어요 밖에서 작업자가 뮤팅 온 하고 그 다음에 옆에 배출 버튼을 눌러야 뮤팅 오프 작동하면서 그때 이제 나올 수 있거든요 근데 요거를 지금은 약간 반자동인데 얘네가 자동으로 한다면은 빈명버지는 나왔어요 그러면 이미 도착했으면 바로 그때 동시에 얘가 실림버 동작한 바로 버튼이 동작한게 아니라

그 상태에서 바로 뮤지션을 시키고 실린다 바로 나오고 도착하면 여기 도착했는데 시동 받으면 다시 뮤지션 오프로 음 그러니까 매거진이 나오면 뮤지션을 하고 요거를 들어가고 나오는 건 지금 현재까지 버튼이 도착했는데 버튼이 아니라 자동을 하면은 자동을 할 수 있죠. 음, 예, so, um, as far as we understood that you want us to, um, to, how to say, um, putting the magazine in and out automatically, right? So that if, for example, if I put the magazine in

알아서 팀원 시키고

배출동작하면 되는데 문제는 아 거기는 나오는 거 맞아 거기는 들어간 게 없으니까 들어간 거 없어 나오는 거 맞아 그러면 자동화할 수 있죠 들어갈 때는 빈 메거진 거기서 들어가는 게 없으니까요 거기서는 메거진 상태가 없으니까요 메거진 염 상태로 죄송합니다. 그 후에 다시 한번 더 말해 주세요 네. 이 디자인은 괜찮아요? 네. 내 제 제안은 플라스틱을 사용하지만 이 제품은 안 사용하는 게 없을 것 같고, 왜냐하면 이 제품은 너무 무거운 것 같고,

우리 PC에서 되잖아. 그리고 핸드리얼을 열어볼게. 뭐 원하면 PC도 안 해봐. 좋은 핸드리얼을 필요해. 그리고 그 다음은 끝이 끝났어요. 저는 생각해보니까 끝이 끝났어요. 마지막 포인트였어요? 플라스틱 커버가 터뜨리되는데 핸드리얼을 열어볼게. 아, 그니까요. 아, 그니까요. 아, 그니까요. 그리고, 제가 다시 한번 확인하고 싶어요. 그니까요. 그니까요. 그니까요. 그니까요.

how to say it's not so close enough yeah i can use my hand maybe open some space you have to make sure this cover is really if i lock it it's not very good maybe the position of the lock need to be changed because now if you can in the now you decide in the end of this conveyor or something like the cylinder moving part and then the open directions like 90 degree or 100 degree for other side open it this position may be cannot fix the whole cover that is some like mechanical design yeah

You got my point, yeah? Sorry, we lost you time to time. Do you mind just write down on the chat room so that we can have a better understanding? Because we lost you time to time because of the network, I think. I will write here. I need to think about... Thank you. This is the local organization. Cover.

should be high enough.

If you want to cover the door, you can put it in the middle of the door. If you want to cover the door, you can put it in the middle of the door. Okay, I need to go. Okay. I think that the team doesn't make the same thing. The team was really helpful. Also, M-Blas has a really good proposal so far. And then I would say we will see us in 3 minutes as we shoot the vlog. Yeah, so anyway, for the cover, we will gonna design that no one can put his face in.

His or her finger. That's for sure. Yep. Okay. Okay, so thank you so much for your time. Thank you also. See you soon. Bye-bye. I'm going to get a little bit more. It's a little bit more.

아 이거 지금 제안서를 해달라는 얘기네. 해달래요? 아까 마지막 말이 프로포절은 뭐 얘기했다는 얘기. 프로포절 제안 자체는 괜찮은데 이러이러한 점들을 좀 생각을 해달라고 했던게 이제 최대한 손을 안 넣게 단단하게 해달라고 했고 그리고 클라스틱 커버가 트랜스페런트 그러니까 투명색으로 해달라고. 클라스틱 커버가 안 나고 철판을 하고 시청자 보고 피지를 해주는 것 같아요. 그것도 그냥 기내해주세요. 외거랜드.

아 오늘 생각에 그거 달아주고 그냥 안일 거니까 근데 문제는 네