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is there a zoom link to like the new board it's in the chat Or be group three?

Or two, right? Yes.

Okay.

Oh wait, I just realized it's supposed to...

We have like a minute left, so try to add like three more each. Okay, closing the rooms, but keep adding more, and then when we come back, we're going to group these into categories.

Hi. I guess we're waiting for another team as well. Oof. I'm managing two laptops again. And can I count it?

Oof.

Okay. I'm so sorry. Okay. Okay. If you guys have come up with the ingredients, the elements that are necessary to create music to express your emotion, now we're going to group them and try to come up with at least five groups. And if you don't have more than 10 sticky notes, then I'm going to first ask you guys to come up with more sticky notes first. So count if you have 10, if you don't come up with more, if you already have more than 10, then we're gonna group them into at least five groups. And you can come up with more elements within these groups as well. And even if there are elements that are less important and they're more important, include all of those elements that are somewhat necessary for song creation, for your emotion expression. So this is another five minutes. Let's go. So again, more than 10 elements, more than five groups.

I couldn't think of any more when I was doing it.

Maybe think about the tool itself and what would need to be a feature of the app in order to make it something that you'd actually use.

Okay.

For organizing it though, I feel like we should do like, these are all like sound effects, I guess. I feel like we should probably like go more specific or something.

Yeah, I like how you guys are grouping it by message and then the actual instruments itself. That's good. And then maybe one more category.

I'm trying to think how we can divide it more, but I'm...

Maybe like, because lyrics is kind of similar to...

message.

So like, we could do this category, like, message, I guess. And then like, beat.

Um, or like, maybe, yeah, beats and then the instruments. Ah. And then you can do one for like the actual lyrics. Yeah.

I feel like message of song could go with melody or with B. I don't really know.

I actually don't know what's going on. what the fifth one would be. I'm trying to think. this might be more for like message of a song but maybe like What did you guys do? think of the two tools that we explored. I like them better than all the other ones we've used.

Yeah, I think so too, because as long as you're specific with the prompt, then the more specific you are, the better result you'll get. And I think that no matter how hard you try with the other tools that we've used, at least for me, it didn't really return the result I wanted.

I also just liked how easy it was to use and it looked satisfying. Like it wasn't... I don't know.

Yeah, I felt like the other four were rip-offs of these original two. That's a good way to put it. Yeah, I think even the... like the UI for some of them looked a lot like.

- And it sounded way less AI.

- It sounded more cleaner or natural compared to the other ones we've used. - I agree.

If you guys want to add more you could come up with like- Because how you guys brought up these two tools were a lot more natural and didn't sound like AI, so maybe a feature could be it doesn't sound like AI. Like if we're thinking about more specifically with the tool. Like it sounds like they're- like the voice has like different tones to it. It's not just like- one tone of voice if that makes sense. I don't know singing terminology. Can you guys think of a fifth category? So you have beats, message, instruments, and then lyrics. I guess we could add like we could break up what's in instruments and go into like or maybe the structure of a song I don't know so making sure there's a proper chorus

we could say like fluidity maybe so like we can do put like speed into that and the like repetitiveness

Make something memorable. Okay, this looks good. Okay, I think we're going back to breakout rooms one more time and then we'll come back and do the next one.

Hi everyone! I saw that you guys came up with a lot of creative notes, which is great. Let me share the screen again. Next step of the activity is we're going to... Just like the previous sessions where we've done similar things, we're gonna... I think all of you guys just have five, but that's good. It's okay. We can use all those five groups that we have come up with. And we're going to put sliders for expected versus current and a reason behind it. So let me share the screen and show you guys the hidden frames. So those hidden frames, I'm going to leave a lit now. So here you're gonna drag the, not drag, I'm so sorry. What you're gonna do this time is you're gonna select the group, sorry, group one, I'm gonna use it as an example. Copy, click to the space, and then paste it. So Ctrl C and Ctrl V. We're doing this so that you remember which group it came from. So again, you click on the group name, copy, and then paste it to each of the spaces because there are five spaces. So copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, paste five times. And then you're going to... So let's say this was a group. And then you're going to place it how much of me should be, how much of AI it should be. Like how much am I controlling or how much of AI is just outputting. And what you think current music tools as a whole, Suno, MusicFX, Mewbird, Udio, everything together on average are doing. And what is the expected, the amount that you want. And then you write down the rationale here. So basically, in reality, you're going to have it copy-pasted twice like this. It might be the same. Current is here but I expect it to be here. Then you can place it exactly the same. And then just write down Reginald because blah blah blah blah. So yeah, let's do it. So make sure you copy paste it. Bye!

for this i'm just confused like do we do the fluidity is that what we like like the categories

not like this there's five um boxes and then we just do it for each category So fluidity, we put instruments and beats, the speed of the beats, and then how dramatic or I guess prominent they are.

How do you guys feel that- Can I copy him?

Oh, continue.

Oh, sorry, now you go.

How do you guys feel that the AI is the one that's controlling the beats when you're creating your song, just overall? um

like medium high I guess

I don't know anyone else has thoughts

I mean I think it's actually like pretty cool how the AI like basically takes their input and like makes the beat for you and unless you want to like really like blame all of the effort as a like producer artist like I think this is a pretty good option for beginners who are interested in learning more about music. So I'd say for beginners, it's actually pretty interesting. And me and myself using it, I actually think it's pretty cool.

Yeah, I think it's really cool to have technology that you can just play around maybe if you're bored. But as for actual music, I don't know if I'm going to want it to be made by AI just because I listen to a lot of music. And I feel like you can't get the kind of like uniqueness or niche kind of music if you like use AI.

That's a good point. So there I guess there's like two different use cases here. So if we want like we can even make like another sticky note that's like if it's for playing around and like experimenting just like for entertainment. for ourselves like it we would expect it to like have be ai to do that for us but if we're trying to actually make a song for people to listen to maybe it's less and like you guys yeah in the

why sticky note i feel like currently it's in like the middle kind of because you can like like we said like you can kind of adjust yes

Definitely, for a lot of them, you can adjust the speed and the style for sure.

Is this for fluidity? Is this for fluidity?

Like this top one?

Yeah.

Oh yeah, I just copy pasted it there. like you can move it around.

- So like expect it, I guess.

- Is this based off of like how much effort the like we or the AI is doing? Like what's the slide they made it for?

- So yeah, like for fluidity, for the beads, like how much are you telling the AI to like, okay, oop make a song that is fast has like a strong like upbeat stuff like that or like some tools have the like different buttons that you can like play around with too like i think suno didn't have that but the dj one did so like okay how much are you like telling the ai and then how much is ai just like guessing based off your prompt

Okay.

Can I say that, like, we put in the adjectives for the prompt, and it bases the fluidity off that? Yeah. Yeah.

So we kind of give it the direction, but ultimately, like, AI is the one that makes that final beat or whatever it is. Okay. We can move on to message of the song, or I guess just whatever's next. Instruments. I feel like it fully does that. because like did you guys when you guys made your prompt did you put specific instruments or you kind of just said like the emotion that you wanted it to capture i should emotion i didn't do any

instruments at all i did i tried i put in like trumpet and violin and it sounded like something that was supposed to sound like trumpet and violin, but it wasn't actually, but I guess that makes sense.

So it didn't sound like trumpet and violin? Interesting. So would we say like instruments is definitely a lot of mostly AI doing it?

Yeah, because I guess you can like edit and put it in as yourself, but like you can also just have it fully choose. I don't know.

For actual- Oh wait, here you go. I would put current as like mostly AI. because I think even if we, like, for example, Abby, you try to, like, get it to sound like trumpet and violin, it didn't work.

Okay, actual lyrics, what do you guys think?

I don't know. I feel like some, it just depends on who you are, because I feel like some people really enjoy, like, being really rewarded by actually making the lyrics themselves, and some people don't really care. And I think Suda made, like, possible AI human voices.

Yeah. I'm gonna put in the middle because I feel like it's like bananas. And then what do you think it is for like right now? Okay, and then the message of the song. I feel like that's majority us, right? Because we like put in the adjectives and I feel like that's how it should stay. I agree with that. And then the last one, beats of the song. I feel like it's like the kind of the same thing as like the fluidity as in like we put in adjectives and it bases it off of that.

Okay, we have a little bit more time. Wait. Okay. We have like two minutes. Does anyone want to share their song that they made? I'm curious if you still have it pulled up. - Mine, I said it out of. - It's okay.

- What do you say?

- Does anyone, we have like two more minutes. Does anyone want to share what song they made?

- Ugh. I mean, I don't know if I can get like a link, but basically I just asked the AI, like, I just gave a prompt about like being happy and like reflective and like proud on like how far you've come. And it actually like executed that pretty well. And that's like pretty surprising.

Yeah, I don't know if you can share your sound. Actually, you might not be able to. You can try.

We'd shit.

Because I was very shocked at how good it was. Because my prompt was, create a song that's inspired by the Lumineers and it's nostalgic. And it was very, very... I mean obviously it does not sound like the Lumineers, but if it was someone who doesn't listen to them, they would think it is. So I was very shocked. And I was also shocked that it didn't flag it as like,"Oh that's a copyright issue" because the DJ one did. So I couldn't make one. And personally I didn't really like the DJ one. It seems like that was also good. Is it letting you?

I'm trying to see. I don't think it is, actually.

Oh, that's okay.

Yeah, it's not. Yeah. I mean, maybe that would be a cool feature to add.

It's true.

Okay.

If really popular songs and just like most songs are copyright protected, then how does like the AI music get their data?

Also, I'm a little concerned about Suno. Like how does it sound so like similar? and the lyrics are like and the voice is very clear and like you could actually like hear what they were saying which is very which is not what the other ones could do so it's very scary okay I will see you guys back in the main room.

Hey you guys, you're doing great! This is looking great so far. Coming back. I guess it's time we do this session. I'm surprised how creative and beyond my imagination you guys always go. It's just great. Okay, so... Step three, this is last activity before taking a break. So we're almost there and this is a pretty quick one. So we're going to do AI must with green sticky notes and AI must not with never should do this with red notes. And you can also add AI can sometimes with like yellow or orange notes, but you have to add a condition like AI can sometimes, I don't know, change its voice. But then you have to specify like how or when when user wants it or when it thinks it's going to make a better music, something like that. So I am going to rebuild those hidden frames once more. Yeah, it's right next to the frames that you guys have been working on. So discuss within your teams, or you can just start out by putting bunch of sticky notes or what you guys think. didn't like and liked in your previous tool exploration. All those three, UDEO, no five in total, Suno, MusicFX. Now you guys are like experts with existing music tools. You guys probably have used more tools than people who actually create music with AI. So yeah, within your groups, you can do this and definitely add more sticky notes than whatever we have here. But try to fill in every sticky notes that we have here. Could be something trivial as well. Like AI must have a pretty design, have more colors than just one, or like include both female and male voices, anything like that. So yeah, let's do this. Last activity before break.

For one of the musts, I said that it should have the toolbar to change intensity, so it's easy to do that. And then I feel like must not, we should definitely say something about the copyright that we were just talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's the interesting thing with AI because with the copyright thing it's kind of inevitable like I feel like you have to accept like maybe a little bit of a consequence or something if you really want.

Yeah.

To feel like it's like not possible to get the best of both worlds.

Yeah, I'll just say the exact...

I don't know if you guys, I think you guys probably caught this, but when we tested out Mubert, it had like the watermark sound, like the voice saying Mubert, like the rapper song. Do you guys think that's something that is a good thing or like, because I think like from an ethical standpoint, I think it's a good thing that it has that audio watermark but obviously it makes for a very unenjoyable song and like no one would want to listen to that

so i'm curious what you guys think i mean i feel like the actually you first i was just gonna say

i feel like it'd just be better to take it off and like maybe instead like have like in the song title say that it's like a i

Oh yeah, maybe. I was just gonna say like, I feel like it's kind of funny because like AI music itself is kind of already unethical because they're taking other stuff and you don't really know where it's getting it from and then they're putting a watermark on top of that so that other people don't seal it. So I think it's like ironic. But like, it's just there to, so you'll buy the service, right?

Yeah. So you pay for the subscription, I think.

Yeah.

That's a really good point, though. It's very...

I just, I said disguise itself as a real artist.

Yeah. Just any deception...

or like i don't really know how it would help with um emotion expression it depends on like if you're looking for study music i feel like it'd be really good but if you're looking for something to like be therapeutic i feel like it's a lot more like emotionally intense to like write your own songs to create something rather than like generating it.

Yeah, I'd definitely be curious to like learn more about like music creation as a form of like therapy or...

Mm-hmm.

Most... I think it can definitely be cool though because I know a lot of people when you're stressed like you like play the guitar you sing or like play the piano stuff like that and people who don't necessarily have like don't know how to play those instruments or don't have access to those instruments like this is pretty accessible to a lot of people so that is something to consider but yeah again it's way like there's still a lot that people need to do research on can you think of three more must-haves i'm gonna say non-repetitive

that's a good one

What about the more stuff on the user interface? What do you guys want to see?

I said the toolbar, but I'm trying to think of more.

Would you guys rather have a tool that you can use? that doesn't necessarily require a prompt for example i think what's it called udo or i forget what it's called but um like you just click buttons okay this is the genre i want here are the emotions and it's more like clicking stuff rather than like typing

in a whole prompt i feel like i personally would want to click stuff but i feel like if people are like going to this like feel their emotions or whatever they're gonna want it to be like specifically tailored to them so i don't know

Yeah.

Or does the Spotify have the assistant guide that'll, like, customize the playlist for you?

Yeah, like your, like, day list?

Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's cool. Maybe, like, a super-powered version.

I think it would also be pretty cool to incorporate this, like, tool into, like, music for sleep or, like, relaxation or something. And then like there could be like presets and all that that you could customize yourself. Because I feel like like this AI music thing, it's like you enter a prompt and then it gives you kind of a random kind of music related to your genre. But if you understand what I'm saying, like I'm basically saying like. Okay, I don't know, but it just gives you like music that's like kind of random and it might not even like fit in with like the kind of theme, like if someone wanted like sweet music or something. So I think probably having like a preset for relaxation or like meditation or something would also be a cool feature to add.

I like that. You should add that to one of them.

Yeah.

So maybe like more for like a specific scenario or situation.

Yeah, I feel like less like mood, more like situation.

I think it would be easier for people to like comprehend too, especially if they're trying to use this as an emotional support tool. This is really good. Maybe some more must-nots. So we have like steal and personally other artists songs, disguise itself as a real artist or be generic. Hi, OnGaude. We are almost done with this activity, but essentially we tested out a couple new tools at the beginning that you can try during the break, and then we just kind of did a bunch of brainstorming. We thought of different ingredients for songs. we did a slider activity and right now we are coming up with things that an AI music tool must have and then must not have so kind of like our wish list for a tool. Got it thank you so much and

then are there any like resources like the mirror board or anything that I can look at right now?

Let me send that. Yeah that would be helpful. Awesome.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Yeah, that's the one we're on right now. And then these are the links for the ones that we did at the beginning. But you don't have to write on that one because we already finished that. Yeah. Okay. i'm trying to think what else it shouldn't have should people be able to monetize off of ai music i mean people already have but with the tool like do you think people could publish it and then potentially make money when people listen to it

i mean like people make money off of like other ai things all the time already so i feel like it's kind of just like inevitable even if there's like moral weirdness about it it's like it's already happening and I feel like it's just like another thing

I don't know I feel like it's kind of wrong but yeah you can't really stop it from happening it's kind of counterintuitive yeah or actually I don't know if people would um like find ai music valuable or rare enough to pay for it because they could just make it

themselves or like access it but people are lazy like businesses like big businesses that just want to play it and like like starbucks playing in their coffee shop or something that's true usually buy it and then just

But then they would have to stop people on YouTube from uploading that music. Because there's probably three, four-hour-long playlists already on YouTube.

I feel like AI should be used as a creative tool rather than to publish it. Creative for people who can't make music to listen to something they want. rather than artists trying to publish it.

Yeah, I agree. But I feel like people would publish it if they could make money off of it. Of course, yeah.

I guess people, like AI videos, they make money off through advertising and traffic. So not actually selling the, That's a good point. Yeah.

Okay. We will head back to main room, but great discussion.

All right. Okay, we're back. And as announced before, we're taking 10 minutes break now. And then we'll see you in 10 minutes then. Get some water. Hello! I'll share the screen for the check-in. Okay everyone, let's come back.

Then we'll do our quick mind-body-heart check-in. And we turn on camera so I know that you guys are actually here. Thank you. So yeah, in chat, just put your numbers down. You know the drill. Yay, I'm seeing lots of fives and fours. That's good. Is anyone on break right now? I know there's like midwinter break for a lot of schools.

That's so nice. I wish I was on break.

Okay, we can move on. Okay. Okay. So now we're going to react within our groups only for now. And you can definitely add more sticky notes after reacting to each other. So how to react? Feel free to use stickers or even sticky notes. Or you can just simply click here to choose one of the reactions or the stickers right here or even... they also have gifts so yeah um let's do it right now together so just go find your group space if you're not sure which group you are in you can ask either me or ellie so go to your group space navigate through yeah we're not gonna go into breakout rooms for now we can just That all together, go to your group space and then read through each other's notes, react to each other like this or stickers, even sticky notes. Yeah. Since it's a quick read, I'll just wait for two minutes. Mm-hmm. I see the cool stickers. Nice. You can also react to your own notes if you really like that. Yeah. So this activity basically is to highlight which are the sticky notes that everyone agrees on and see which one would be really important. So stick to your group space and react within your group. Okay. Because we're going to go on to the next activity based on this. So yeah, react within your group with stickers, reaction, gifs if you would like. With sticky notes to write down, comment if you would like. I'll give you guys one more minute. Nice. See some stickers flowing around. Oh, if you haven't figured out how to use stickers, it's here. Or you can draw something if you would like. And yeah. You can also just react with sticky notes. Saying like, yay, I like this. Or... ask questions Get 20 more seconds. Nice. Okay. Yeah. If someone else has already reacted with like the mini emojis, you can just click on it and it will add up the number, which is a cool feature on mirror. So, okay. Keep living more reactions to the ones that you really agree or really like, you find it interesting. And then now we're going to move on to making final set of the rule book or more like a wish list in guidelines for designing music creation tool to express emotion. So again, this tool is for yourself. The key users are teenagers and you can just think about yourself. Okay, if I'm going to use this tool, how should it be designed to express my emotion? So here I kind of recreated this like paper texture, kind of like a rule book or like a, I don't know, like a document. So to truly express our emotions, the AI music creation tool must follow these rules. So you can combine those notes here. If anything is on the same, I don't know, on the same page, on the same context, you can also edit it, rephrase it, or even add new ideas. You can also add some optional rules. I put six, so you can aim for at least six and then go beyond, just like seven, eight, nine. If the space is too small, feel free to use empty spaces out here as well. But yeah, discuss among you guys, take a look at which ones you guys voted to be important or something else that you thought of. So yeah, we're gonna have 10 minutes to come up with the final rules. Think about yourself. It's not about the actual musicians out there. It's about yourselves. okay see you

Okay, what do you guys think is the most important?

Probably not impersonating other people and being very clear that it is AI. I agree.

And I think, like, the easy toolbars was... So it's like accessible. I'm just like copying and pasting. Yeah. Yeah. I like the... I didn't read this one before, but the, like, follow song rules. It's interesting. Um... And then... And then like, just like in general being the... And then what do you guys think is the last most important thing?

Um... I mean, I was thinking like more accessible, like a very accessible UI and...

I like that you should add that as one.

It kind of goes with yours though, but hopefully it's like not too similar.

Maybe my suggestion is to put it with number one. Okay. And then the sixth one, well... i mean we don't need six we can just have five i feel like five is a good number and i feel like you guys got everything just move them down a bit um yeah i think even to number three where it says follow song rules you guys can add like don't um repeat and like the same thing over and over again because i think that was something that you guys brought up a lot Okay, Dani just put a comment and said that combining notes is a great idea. Just make sure to rephrase it so that it becomes a list of rules. So yeah, maybe just try to make one concise statement that combines the two sticky notes for number one and three.

Like we should combine them?

Yeah, my bad. So for the first one, it can just be like an accessible UI that has like easy toolbars that you can change intensity with. Do we want to add maybe one more thing that's like optional rule? Because we have accessible UI, doesn't impersonate other artists, follow song rules, and then be accurate with the feeling and scenario. Do you guys think like maybe the warning that it is using AI or maybe Yeah.

Maybe we can separate number two into two different sticky units?

Yeah, so it doesn't impersonate other artists and then distinguishes itself. Yeah, I agree. These all look really good. of other things that you'd want to add. No? I think this is a pretty good list. And then think about which one that you would really like the number one rule that you'd want to have in an AI music tool. Okay, I think... let me check. I think we'll go back to the main room.

- Bye. Let's try to have at least six rules. So yeah, more than six is great.

- I told my group five is okay.

Sorry. - It's okay, it's totally fine. Group two, I'll give you guys a little time. Maybe anyone could just like bring whatever got some votes or as you guys were discussing something that kept lingering in the conversation. You could take action about that. Since teams are still coming back, we have a little bit of time. I love how the styles of all three teams are so different. So creative. Okay, I guess everyone's back now. So now we're going to have reaction time. Instead of just sharing, I thought to save time, we're just going to share, walk around. So now you can actually take a look at other team's rulebook. So we're only going to take a look at here, the final set, those frames. And then you're going to leave, if you'd like something, put yellow sticky notes specifying what you liked. Oh, I like that you guys mentioned this and that, or like, oh yeah, I agree. if you guys have questions, hey, you said you're going to control the voice, then how about the Like, are you going to control the age of the voice or something that you wish? I like this rule, but I think you should, you could expand it like this and that. So yeah, please help each other out with those three types of sticky notes, because we're going to make actual working tool next time. Yeah, so on the same mirror board, go visit other team, group 1, 2, 3, go to other teams and oh sorry, since this group 3 was working on yellow, group 3, do you mind changing your sticky notes to another color? and also group 2, if you mind changing colors to not yellow, green and blue, sorry, I should have mentioned this. So yeah, group two and three, if you guys could just change the colors before we move around. That's great. Great. Something like pink, maybe? Pink or purple. Or like turquoise is great. Yeah, turquoise is great. Yay. So yeah, I'm going to change this. and two, I'll get purple for you guys. And also group three, if you guys could come up with another role, I think you got, someone was working on it last time, number six. Meanwhile, everyone else can go around, react to each other with those three indicators. I also put this on Miro as a reference. Yes. Okay. So I'll give you guys like five minutes to react. Try to leave at least three notes in total. So at least one for each group. It's great if you leave more than one for a group because it's really going to help them. to think outside of their boxes and expand on the idea for the actual iteration. So yeah, like question wish. Can also put stickers if you would like, like last time, but make sure you put at least three sticky notes.

Mm-hmm.

and um yeah group three again um i think someone was working on number six before we left the breakout room so if you could just yeah put that in that'd be great nice you guys are leaving a lot of like notes a lot of things that you liked Oh even using the arrows I'm gonna put purple here for the number 6 that was missing. I really don't remember what was it but I saw something. So yeah, group 3 if you can fill it in. I'll move around in a while. Nice, we have a few question notes as well. which can be something that expands from that feature as well, or rules or something completely opposite or more advanced version. Anything's good. Feel free to use stickers as well. If you're like really enthusiastic about any of the rules. Miro has a lot of good stickers. I'm surprised. Okay, we'll have two more minutes. Nice. You guys are being very supportive to each other. I guess by looking at each other's rules, it also helps you guys. Something like,"Oh, I should include this when I actually make the tool." You can put multiple likes as well if you like more than one rules. One more minute. Let's be supportive to each other. I think group one, we have a lot of like long comments. I guess like people were really being awful. You can just put short comments too because we only have three here so far. So group two and three, if you could give group one more ideas and share your thoughts. I'm gonna wait for a few more seconds till you guys wrap it up and leave a few more comments, reactions. Okay. So yeah, that's it for today's session. And next time I'll feel free to leave your comments if you are still working on it. I really don't wanna cut it up. Next time we're actually building the tool and it's gonna be our last session. but almost the most fun one, I think, because you guys are actually going to see the tool working. You guys don't have to program it. Don't worry. I'll get it prepared for you guys. You guys just have to edit it with the facilitators. And I think it might be a really useful experience for your future works outside of the session as well. So I'll also in the journal, we have additional question out of the rules that you made you saw today could be yours or other groups, which one rule is the most important to you personally. It could be something from your group or something that is not here or from another group as well. So yeah, I would love to hear your thoughts about this. And I'll hand it to Allie.

- Thanks, Danny. Yeah, I know today was very brainstorming heavy, but good news, next session, you guys will actually get to finally make the tool that you've been talking about for the last two months. So yes, please fill out your research journals. Again, try to fill out at least one question before you leave. But yeah, that should be all. That's all I have on my end. The next time we meet, it'll be March. And yeah, I hope you guys enjoy today's session and come prepared for our last session with Dani 'cause it's gonna be really fun. - Yay. - Thank you. And I know we're, we are ending a little bit early, but once you fill out, like you can honestly do the whole like journal with the rest of the time that we have, 12 minutes. And maybe Dani can put on some music.

Thank you.

Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Bye, take a day. Bye. See you later. Thank you. Thank you.