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Shared on October 7, 2026

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Speaker 200:00

Like exactly what? Yeah, I think we have to draw what it looks like. Like the tool would look like.

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Speaker 100:06

How do we want it to look? Does anyone have any ideas?

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Speaker 300:11

Wait, so this is like a tool for the music creation, right?

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Speaker 100:14

Yeah.

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Speaker 200:15

Yeah.

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Speaker 100:16

Like the apps like that we were using kind of.

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Speaker 200:19

I think we can also describe it because it says up there you can use sticky notes or you can draw it. So, yeah.

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Speaker 300:29

What do you draw? Oh, there's time. Maybe it'll be like a dashboard, like you get your profile picture on the side and you get like a menu of--

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Speaker 100:48

Yeah, I like the menu idea definitely.

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Speaker 300:51

and the knobs.

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Speaker 101:13

And do we add like the colors and stuff to it?

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Speaker 301:17

Yeah, we should do it. We should make it color cut. It's easy to understand.

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Speaker 101:23

Yeah, um, we can do like a, should we do like a, I don't know, but we definitely need like a place for the motion to go and then like if we want anything special with it, I don't really know.

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Speaker 301:42

maybe under the profile picture it's like how are you today yeah wait and then where do we want the

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Speaker 201:50

user to like type in um type in like the prompt or like how they're feeling today do we want it to be above the music settings or like what it should probably be in the center right

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Speaker 102:01

yeah and i feel like it should be like the biggest thing like yeah I hate it it's false

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Speaker 202:08

yeah I agree

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Speaker 102:27

oh i like the drawing thank you okay i'm trying to think of like things to add but like i can't really remember what like what's on the other ones

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Speaker 302:42

maybe there's like a friend activity go avi say say what you were gonna say

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Speaker 402:55

I'll cut you off. Go ahead and finish your thought.

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Speaker 303:01

Oh no, I was thinking aloud.

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Speaker 403:03

I was going to say, Anna, we forgot what the other ones look like. You always just open them. We will open Suno to see what kind of things they have. Draw inspiration.

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Speaker 103:16

yeah I like the friend activity idea I don't know I don't know what color do we want

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Speaker 203:45

I don't know what specific color but I feel like having a gradient would be like cool because I feel like that kind of fits the AI theme like well and music as well so

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Speaker 104:01

I kind of like the yellow.

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Speaker 304:03

It depends what you're going for. If you go for minimalism, it's easier to use, but gradient looks more like professional almost.

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Speaker 104:12

Yeah, I don't know. You guys have to like that bit because I don't really know it.

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Speaker 304:18

Maybe we can make a gradient? Well, maybe not. - Okay.

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Speaker 406:12

Can I ask a favor? My computer is being the most buggy it's ever been in its entire life and I can't seem to load the mirror board. And I'm really curious what you guys are making. Can someone share their screen? I'm just so annoyed. At my computer, not anyone in this

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Speaker 306:28

call. I don't care for my shit. I should have permission. it's not okay but i'm just so curious oh yeah we i think i can okay i can share let me i can't oh there like that yeah thank you

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Speaker 407:02

that's the yellow you were talking about no i was just like in the darkness okay cool i love that yeah so then you would enter a prompt in like the middle that's you now i see the drawing thank you

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Speaker 307:23

and then uh and then it logs your entries on the right maybe it's just like like a like a widget or like a feature where it just goes into a little diary section and people just manually type in notes. Oh, cool. Just like unrelated. I don't know.

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Speaker 107:42

It's very interesting. I like that. I don't really have much ideas. I'm sorry. It's fine.

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Speaker 407:50

You're fine. That's how we're in a group.

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Speaker 307:51

Maybe this whole like center space will just be blank and then people can just click on it anywhere. to type.

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Speaker 108:03

Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 408:06

Would it keep my past entries? Is that like what the write is? Just clarifying.

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Speaker 308:16

This is like past music projects, maybe. Like past songs they made or music they listened to. Oh, cool. Okay. I guess the journal is more extraneous.

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Speaker 408:56

and then when it has the um when it gives you like you're like typing your emotion cool and I wasn't here last time so like correct me I don't know what you guys did but like it types in your emotion and then it like generates a song for you and then can you toggle with that okay so you could toggle with them would it tell you why you generated the song that it did

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Speaker 309:22

i don't think so or we don't need that i don't know you tell me

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Speaker 109:28

i guess that'd be cool maybe we should do something like that we could add it in in like the

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Speaker 209:34

yeah yeah i think it could be interesting if like while the ai was like generating the song we could like like see what it was what it's like thinking about like if you guys know like the thinking thing that shows up in like chat gpt or like claude if you guys have used that so yeah

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Speaker 409:53

that's cool just because like i've used like suda before or whatever and then it gives me like a really upbeat song and you're like that's that's that's an interesting choice

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Speaker 110:06

that's actually a really good idea like having that added in Maybe we should look at the other people. They're doing... Wait, is that what we're supposed to be doing? Oh, they're doing very much technical things.

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Speaker 310:35

Oh yeah, I guess they're doing something more... I feel like that's fine. Can you show me your thoughts from last time?

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Speaker 410:43

I'm wondering that's you guys right? the same group

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Speaker 310:47

yeah this is ours okay accessible UI

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Speaker 410:51

love that does not impersonate other artists song rules what does that mean? what does number three mean?

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Speaker 311:02

like sometimes when I was generating rap it wouldn't even use the same beat it would just kind of warp which makes sense because that is like not that sophisticated but

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Speaker 411:14

maybe that's something that could be improved okay so like that like number three number four seem like give me good content right like not yeah yeah no which is super important i'm just trying to like differentiate them Ooh, number five. Do we have that yet? It's a good idea.

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Speaker 311:36

Oh, we should do that. Your idea. A giant warning, this is AI. No. I don't know. I feel like actual companies would be reluctant to make it very large.

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Speaker 112:07

Yeah, because they kind of want to...

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Speaker 313:22

I feel like there should be something here just to make it look balanced.

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Speaker 113:26

Yeah, we could... I really like the, like, visuals, like, the drawings. If we can, like, incorporate another one of them.

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Speaker 313:40

Okay, yeah. Um... All right.

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Speaker 416:45

I think we're going back to the main room. Let's do that.

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Speaker 516:51

Came up with a lot of great ideas. And some of the teams actually worked on the next steps that we're working on. It's just great. You guys get to save time. So I'll explain more about step two. We're going to work with the actual UI kits. And how that's going to look is... um we're gonna do feature ideations so more detailed explanation and also a glimpse of how the itch function the feature are gonna work and remember again yourself as a user so don't think about like other people out out there in the world but think about you yourself how do you want it to be like how would you um how should it be designed so that it is working the best for you specifically. And yeah, we're going to work on the ideation first. And we're not going to be divided into the groups, but you can, we're going to, sorry, you're going to work in your group space, but we're not going to be in breakout rooms. We're just going to spend time all together. So if you follow this line underneath your, whatever you worked on just right now, you'll find this. and you can just grab one frame. And the reason why there's so many frames is so that you can work on more than one. So one frame should only have one feature. So it's the same mirror board, just follow your line and go to your group space. And then, or you can like zoom out and then find the step two sticky notes. And if you can think of like three UI kits, you can grab three frames. And so that for other people to work with the same kit as well, please copy and then paste on the frame, not drag it over because no one else would be able to use it. Feel free to also use sticky notes drawing shapes if you would like Other than those UI kits right here as well So we're gonna work on the same mirror board and within this main room and we're gonna have 10 minutes and it doesn't have to be pretty you can just go ahead and

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Speaker 419:05

Dani, can I ask you before you let them go, could I ask you to go over kind of what that means? Like what is a UI kit? Like what's that big square in the middle? Oh, yeah. Just in case we haven't done this before.

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Speaker 519:20

Yeah, of course. So I'm not going to go over every element because I want you guys to be creative and even use it in the different ways that it was designed into. For example, let's look at this one. It's the volume fader and, you know, it has the volume sign and the circle. You can move it. But if you want to like use it. I don't know, for something else, you can rotate it or change it however you want, and then design that feature that you guys just talked about in your group. So those are just like example, like sample elements that you can bring and use in the feature ideation that you guys are working on. But again, please copy and then paste on the frame so that other people can use it as well. If you don't like any elements that are here, you can simply draw it by yourself or use the shapes. But we're doing this so that the features that you guys were talking about just right now looks more concrete and it's visually presented. But for example, like this one is the image icon, but you don't have to use it that way. If you want to use it as, oh, this is going to represent my diary, that's totally fine too. And please add text so that people can understand what you have to design with. And yeah, feel free to be creative. Create whatever you guys want based on what you just came up with. And let's say the idea that you guys just talked about in step one was drawing an animal, which is totally a stupid idea. But if you feel like, okay, before drawing an animal, we would have to name that animal, then you can work on that feature as well. So it doesn't have to be only about what you discussed, but could be an expansion on that as well. I hope that makes sense. Yeah. Please let me know if anyone has a question.

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Speaker 421:07

Another question for me. Sorry, just so I understand too.

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Speaker 521:10

No, that's great.

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Speaker 421:11

So in the 10 minutes that you're giving us to work on this, everyone does this individually. We're going to work on as many features individually as we'd like, right? Yes. So it's not just the main screen or just like, it's just... As many as we want.

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Speaker 521:26

Uh-huh. So it could definitely be main screen, but it could also be the step before that or step after that or even another feature that you would like to add on the main screen idea.

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Speaker 421:37

Got it. Okay, cool. Just clarifying.

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Speaker 521:40

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for pointing that out. Okay, so we're going to have 10 minutes and let's go. *sniff* So if you joined late, go to the mirror board on the chat, find your group space, step 2. So if you just follow the line, you will find the step 2 space. And then grab however frames you would like to design that feature. or an expansion of the feature or add a feature. You can also draw it instead of using the kits that I provided or just use sticky notes as well.

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Speaker 422:52

I just want to double check, does anyone not have access to the mirror board and would like to tell us what to do and we can do it for you on the board? Everyone has access to the mirror board. Great. Cool. If not, DM us or on the chat.

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Speaker 523:22

The So again, it's one feature per frame so that we can kind of like separate it in each frame and see it all more clearly. So feel free to come up with like a weird element as well. If you want to add like an Easter egg to your tool or you want to add some fun, that's totally fine too. Doesn't have to be perfect because those are just ideas. You can also think about another way to make that feature you just discussed about in different ways as well.

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Speaker 629:49

We have about two minutes left, so try to... If you already did one feature, try to start another one. Thank you.

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Speaker 531:52

I always love that sound effect so much. All right. So I have removed some frames that don't have anything. I'm pretty sure it was all empty frames so that you guys can see the ones that have some features and content. And now for two minutes, go ahead and take a look at your teammates' features and react with stickers or sticky notes. If there's anything like overlapping with yours, you can talk about, oh, we can combine it like this or let's go with this one for this reason and so on. So two minutes react within your team to each other's feature and react outside of the frame so it doesn't, you know, change anything about the feature. Okay, two minutes. Go ahead and leave some stickers, sticky notes, reactions to each other's frame. Okay. place your reactions like outside of the box. Can be like, oh, I like this. We should definitely have it or we should change this like that. Yours is like the same with mine but let's change it like this and that and so on. You can use sticky notes, stickers. Try to leave reaction for every feature if you could. You can also react to your own feature. Like, I really want this. Alright, 30 more seconds. Again, try to react to every feature that your teammate have come up with. If there's any feature that doesn't have any reaction, please go ahead and leave a reaction for that as well. Give a little comment. If you really don't like something, you can talk about, oh, maybe we should change this in that way. I still see some feature that doesn't have reaction. I think it's because, you know, some people worked on multiple feature, which is great. and others are still taking a look at it. I'll give you guys 30 seconds, another 30 seconds. Again, this is within your group. So... Okay, we're going to transition into next phase and let me explain about it first. So we have just reacted. So originally I was only going to let you guys bring the feature that has like key reactions, but I think you can discuss in your groups which features to bring into the main feature box. It's right here, the final features. So whatever you guys have discussed and have rich consensus, like this one has a hard and sticky note, so we can definitely bring this here like this. But talk within your groups about this. And now we're going to first work on two elaborations, filling in the blanks, which is right here, step three. So let me unlock those frames for you guys. Now you can see it. It's right beneath the features, the final features and then here. So what you're gonna do is you're gonna fill in the blanks. So please discuss within your team to fill in those blanks. There are total five blanks because there's two for question three. And then after that you're gonna work on your user flow. So what user flow basically is, is showing how the user would navigate through your tool. So it will look like this, this is an example, like a little silly example that I made for you guys. Let's say user clicks the plus button, user can either create a document or create an image. They type it and then AI makes the content and it doesn't have to be perfect. That's why I'm showing you guys ugly lines like this and it can definitely go back to the previous phase. And then I just want you guys to use different colors for start, end, and then the tool and user. I have specified the color keys in the user flow tab, so don't worry about this. So again, just to go over the steps again, you guys discuss what are going to be the final features and then bring them like, oh, sorry, click it, bring the frames into final features. Now you see the final features, looking at those, talk about how to fill in the blanks right here. After you have completed filling in the blanks, transition here and then make the user flow. The easy way is that someone who knows how this tool operate, you guys probably know by discussing it here, can just start and make more steps. Good thing about Miro is that if you click here, like hover, it creates another square, like boom. So you can easily do it like here, if you hover here, or you can also hover here as well. And then another person can go ahead and add more steps or going back steps or another step. What if the user doesn't like it? Or what if user wants to change this and that? So different thing once again. Drag in the final features over here, click on the frame and then drag it. Looking at the final feature, fill in the blanks. After filling in the blanks, you go on to user feature. Please let me know if you guys have any questions. There is no right or wrong, this is about your tool. So try to fill in as many details as possible so that it will be built accurately. And also after this, if you, I think you can transition right away, you're going to choose one main color for your tool. But I think we can just go until this phase for now. And then let's come back to main room. Okay, so let's be in breakout rooms. bye have fun

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Speaker 139:33

I like the tabs I was not really understanding what I was supposed to be doing so I like the tabs

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Speaker 339:46

maybe the tabs could be combined with my journal thing

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Speaker 139:49

yeah that's what I was saying in the comments I thought that that could be combined - See, click on them. - Click on them. - So, final features.

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Speaker 440:03

- So first you guys are dragging in the final features into that giant square, right? That's the first instruction that we got? - Yeah. - Okay, cool.

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Speaker 340:11

- I can copy and paste that. I don't know why it's not like...

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Speaker 140:29

Okay, you know what? It's fine. Okay. So how does it start? Okay. Oh, wait. I skipped a step. We have to go to step three. This tool is like...

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Speaker 440:49

Oh, wait. But are those all the features that we want? Are there other features...

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Speaker 140:57

I think it's just this one and then we do it like based off of

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Speaker 341:03

yeah I can move the top one over since maybe we can like merge them

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Speaker 441:07

okay and then we don't want frame 26 34 and 35 legit I'm just making sure we're not leaving anything behind yeah Okay, cool.

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Speaker 141:23

And so we can go... This tool is like... Is it like personality? I don't really know what that means.

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Speaker 241:39

I don't think it's like necessarily personality, because I think personality means like the AI chatbot's personality, right?

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Speaker 341:46

Or... Oh, okay. Maybe it's just, it's like a, like a, just a journaling. It's like a journal.

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Speaker 141:54

It's like a journal. Oh, that's perfect, yeah. I, I use. I can type it first. Okay. You see, like, I use my feelings or something, I don't know.

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Speaker 342:11

Oh wait, like I use page, like page apps?

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Speaker 142:18

Yeah, page to write down my feelings. When I imply emotions, my tool reacts by... maybe just like i feel like there's not really like if you like click that turn this entry into a song then it turns it into a song we could go like that okay yeah okay and then for the where does it start user

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Speaker 243:02

wait shouldn't it be like or yeah actually yeah that makes sense but another thing that we could do is like the first time someone opens the app they could just be prompted to like write a journal about today and then that way it's like saved as well but we could also just have it start by like the user clicking a button which oh yeah i think that sounds i think we should do that the like whenever they open the app or like by them clicking a button like when when they open

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Speaker 343:41

the app it helps them to create in the app wait yeah when they open and then wait guys i have

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Speaker 143:55

It will be like, and then what happens next is, oh my gosh, they write their--

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Speaker 344:03

Maybe it's like we can be more specific with the function. Like in the first one it's like, oh, there's a pop-up and then the user clicks on it. Yeah. And then it shows the menu.

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Speaker 144:15

The user. Okay. And then what do we want to go from there?

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Speaker 344:48

Okay, well, the user will click. Or the user will click now.

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Speaker 145:02

Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 345:05

How do you make the lines? I have no clue.

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Speaker 445:10

here wait if you make the squares I'll make the lines that should not be the one we're talking about it

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Speaker 145:18

there okay and then if the user clicks yes then they'll start writing their journal page journal

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Speaker 345:33

dashboard years yeah and then if they click no then it could just take them back to the normal app yeah like just the main screen okay

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Speaker 145:54

oh what just happened oops oh no you're fine I was just confused

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Speaker 346:00

Thank you.

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Speaker 146:21

and then we should have it like ask the user if they want to turn into a song or not and if it doesn't turn into a song then it can just go into like their stored entries okay but if it they say yes then it goes into their stored entries but it also makes a song

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Speaker 246:41

yeah I think that's a good idea

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Speaker 447:04

Is there another option for me if I open the app other than writing a journal entry? Like what if I want to like check past songs or something? I don't know. I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 147:16

I guess you have to click now.

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Speaker 447:19

Yeah.

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Speaker 147:21

And then it goes back and then it will go just to like their home page I guess. I guess the homepage can have their journal entries.

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Speaker 447:29

Okay, so would that start then be a homepage and then it prompts it? Like where would you put that in the flow?

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Speaker 147:35

I feel like you put it in where it goes, users take into page dashboard after they click no and like say that they have access to. and then have access

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Speaker 347:50

past. In the original menu, there was like a little button. There was like a button where you could go to the journal.

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Speaker 247:59

Another thing that we could do is have it only prompt them to write a journal entry only if it's like their first time opening the app in the day. So that if they're like opening the app for the second or third time, then they're not constantly like being asked if they want to write a journal entry.

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Speaker 348:16

oh that's a good point

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Speaker 248:18

do you want me to change it change that

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Speaker 448:22

yeah

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Speaker 248:22

cool I'll do that

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Speaker 448:24

I'm also noticing that I'm not sure that we answered question four and step three oh yeah I was just

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Speaker 148:34

thinking about that I just didn't know what we were supposed to put To keep our wish list from last section. Okay, I can look up at our wish list and see.

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Speaker 448:44

I think it's the one that we had above that we just, like, read out. Yeah. Are we saying, like, oh, what we used from that? It sounds like the idea is to look at that wish list and say, okay, to, like, make sure that this is kept here's a feature that we chose so that this principle is kept does that

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Speaker 149:06

make sense yeah maybe like the be accurate with feeling and scenario provided yeah yeah yeah that's a good one i feel like that's the most accurate that goes along with it

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Speaker 449:23

yeah so what feature did we decide to include because of that wish list

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Speaker 149:28

the journal because like it will make it really personalized

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Speaker 449:31

yeah go ahead and put that in I had another question. Just because I remember at the start of this, y'all were really excited about the friends and sharing aspect of it, right? Am I wrong?

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Speaker 350:28

Yeah, that was... Yeah.

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Speaker 450:32

Cool. Where in the flow is that go?

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Speaker 350:36

I guess it's not directly related to the journal thing, but it's just like they're on the main screen for if they want to share. Oh yeah, maybe there could be like a share button for after the song was generated.

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Speaker 450:47

Yeah. Could also be like a past century thing for both. You could share both. I have a question that I'm curious if you guys thought about. And if the answer is no, that's fine. I mean, I have to do it. But I'm wondering, like, if I were to use this type of app, I feel like I would give it very basic emotions, like sad, happy.

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Speaker 354:47

I don't know.

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Speaker 454:49

Something very basic. Okay. And I wonder how specific you'd like it to, what is the level of specificity you'd like it to require?

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Speaker 155:02

I think it would depend on the day almost because some days you might want to share more emotions and other days you don't. And it's more of like a journal thing. So like even when you're at home journaling, like some days you have more time, some days you have less time and stuff like that. So I feel like the AI should be like lenient with deciding what you want.

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Speaker 455:24

Yeah, cool. Like there's no baseline. It's just like what you give me is what you give me. Okay.

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Speaker 255:32

Yeah, I think one thing that we could also do is if the AI doesn't have enough like context to create a song based off of just like a really simple emotion, then what we could do is ask the user like questions, follow up questions. And we could have it be in multiple choice format as well, rather than like having them type out another response if they're like easier, because I've seen like other AI chatbots also do that sometimes. So I think that works really well.

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Speaker 455:57

yeah yeah i just used one today that i was like trying to code something and it's like do you want this or this and i was like oh thank you for asking me i didn't think of that yeah um yeah that's where the thank you that's where the thought came from cool where in the flow with that and it could be optional and like you said like it doesn't have to be i feel like it's just like

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Speaker 156:17

i don't know Maybe it can be in like when it pops up on the screen, it can just be like share what you want.

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Speaker 456:25

Yeah, add that in. That's a good idea. Awesome. And then while you're doing that, I know that Danny just opened up the option for us to name our tool and to give it a main color. So if anyone wants to take a stab at that.

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Speaker 157:06

What color do you guys think? Anyone have an idea? I liked the yellow that you did before.

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Speaker 357:18

Okay. I think Yellen threw that together pretty well.

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Speaker 457:28

Maybe Lakers or something.

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Speaker 157:30

And then do we have like a name? Maybe just like journal? I don't know.

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Speaker 357:36

There's a kind of word that's related to journal and music.

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Speaker 157:40

Yeah.

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Speaker 357:41

Notes. no um no i don't know i'm good with anything

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Speaker 457:55

no time no it's cool just because yeah i like that because it's like

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Speaker 158:09

You know what?

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Speaker 358:21

I don't think it's already a thing

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Speaker 458:23

you know it's really cute you might get confused with the apple

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Speaker 358:32

you know that's why that's why it was so familiar

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Speaker 459:00

We have another like minute or two. So are you good with that name?

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Speaker 159:06

Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 459:07

That's cute.

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Speaker 159:10

I can't think of anything else.

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Speaker 459:13

You can make it their AI and be like, no time dot I-O, AI, whatever. They have all these names that are repetitive.

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Speaker 359:19

Oh yeah, people always put AI after they--

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Speaker 459:21

yeah it used to be io and now it's ai and i i don't know they're gonna have to use an e-bar soon Well, I guess we're going back.

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Speaker 51:00:39

Hi! So I saw that a lot of you guys had a great time with the user flow and even the main color. So I wanted to debrief about this. You guys are going to choose one or more if you want. Colors to be the main color, the theme of your tool. So you can talk about what is going to be the vibe of this tool. And after that, you're going to come up with the main screen. So I will open this right here. So you can definitely do more than one screen, but this is to help the live building process about how this tool will mainly look like. So you can either just bring the final feature screens that you had here and kind of like elaborate on it, or you can start from the scratch. If you wanna have more than one main screen, you can just copy paste the screen and then have more. But try to put as many details as you want and use that main color that you came up with as well. And to choose a main color, you can click on the square and then just click on it and then choose a color. If you don't like any colors here, you can also click on the plus button here and then choose it like this. But yeah, and then after that, we're going to have a break. All right.

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Speaker 11:02:19

Okay, so I can copy and paste the original journal thing.

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Speaker 31:02:30

Oh wait, but technically this wouldn't be the main screen. This would be an aspect of it, right?

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Speaker 11:02:38

Because we have the other thing with all this stuff. Oh yeah, so I... And we are sure.

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Speaker 31:02:55

or maybe we could just have it like that i don't know i'm okay with anything

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Speaker 11:02:59

oh um i don't know we could copy and paste the frame too and then add in like the journal thing okay too and that like kind of blank spot Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 31:04:05

I'm sure.

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Speaker 11:04:23

I don't really know where to put it. sure i guess we'll just maybe move uh make this like smaller oh my gosh you can also group it

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Speaker 31:04:49

wait let me just group this one right here i group this together and then

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Speaker 11:05:36

. Can we delete the things that you see I'm hovering over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Oh, wait, what did I just do?

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Speaker 31:05:49

OK.

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Speaker 11:06:01

Like that.

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Speaker 51:08:56

Alright. I guess some groups were still working on it. If the things look like need more details, I'll give you guys more time. But for now, we're going to have 10 minutes break and then meet up after that to actually build the tool that we came up with. Alright, see you guys in 10 minutes.

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Speaker 61:09:18

Okay. Okay everyone, let's start coming back. And please turn on your cameras. We have 30 more minutes of this session. We got this. We're gonna do a quick check-in. So in the chat, you can just put your, how you're feeling in your mind, body, and heart, like always. and then after that we'll move on to our final activity So again in the chat, yep. Just put how you're feeling. Okay, you can keep adding in the chat. But Dani, do you want to lead us into our last activity?

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Speaker 51:20:42

Yes! So this is a fun part. We're actually going to do live building. Your facilitators are going to be there to work on this. How this is going to work is that we're going to use Gemini to bring your tool into life. Your facilitators will share the screen and type in any modification you want to make. And they can also just change the code here in case it's about the title, Octarina. You can change what it says from the code and it will automatically update on the preview. But you can also say, oh, I don't like... You can tell the facilitator, I don't like the font or I don't like the logo. Can we change it to this and that? and they will type the prompt to change it and it will be shown to you guys as they're sharing the screen. And while they're sharing the screen, you will also see the sketch. Let me share the screen like this. Like this side by side so that you can, while you guys are seeing the preview of the app and prompting to change, you will also see your tool, idea, and the rules so you can refer back to it and try to align it. All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 61:21:59

Just to double check, should we, because I don't, do I have to refresh to see?

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Speaker 41:22:11

Yeah, I'm also in the Gemini. Do I have to be in the group too?

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Speaker 51:22:15

Yes, you would have to refresh the whole thing. And do you see the chat? I will, you have to open through the. hamburger menu right here to close and open

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Speaker 61:22:27

I think mine's still loading I just refreshed it

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Speaker 51:22:32

okay and if you don't see you can also go to my stuff and you will see this Octarina is group 1 no time group 2 group 3 is still modifying some stuff so yeah do you guys see it?

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Speaker 11:22:46

Okay, I see it now. Okay, great. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. On how we like use the day. Okay.

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Speaker 41:23:14

Sorry, I just got in. I caught the last bit of your sentence, Anna. What did you say?

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Speaker 11:23:20

I'm kind of confused on how we're using, like, Gemini and stuff.

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Speaker 41:23:25

I am here. Watch. Oh, okay. Yeah. Just because it was hard to get permissions for everyone. So I will be your... let's see hello oh i guess okay how about we do this sorry i'm also going to turn my camera off

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Speaker 31:23:46

not because i don't like you guys just because that way i can share my entire screen

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Speaker 41:23:50

and put you here and then i can like show you the desktop Okay, could you see my desktop? Not yet. Not yet?

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Speaker 21:24:13

How about now? There I see it.

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Speaker 41:24:15

Yeah? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, cool. Great. Now you can see how many tabs I've opened, which is always very embarrassing, but you'll Cope with me. Okay. So we're supposed to have the user flow on one end. So this is the user flow just so we can get it. And this is our app. Look, it's cool. So what Dani did during the break, just so we're all on the same page, is she took everything that we designed and she put it into what's called a PRD. which is a product requirements document, and then gave that to Gemini, and then Gemini made an interactive web tool based on that, right? And so what we can do now is look at this, see if we like it, see if we don't, and it's supposed to be interactive. So do you want me to go through it for a second and see if it works?

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Speaker 11:25:10

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:25:11

Awesome. Okay. So I'm scared to touch this, but let's see. So there's a pop-up like you wanted, right?

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Speaker 11:25:18

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:25:19

Yeah. Okay. You look at the flow because I'm having a hard time with both. Let's say I want to start my first entry. So I click that and then, ooh. Oh, wow.

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Speaker 31:25:31

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:25:31

Right? That's cool. I'm glad you think so. And just so we know what the backbone of this is. So this is the preview if you ever try this yourself. And this is the code. And so we can always go into the code and look at what's happening. But we actually don't have to. So we'll just go through the preview. And if there's anything that we want to change, tell me. And I could ask it in the chat to change and it does it automatically. Okay, cool. So I'm still going through it. So let's say I want to type, right? Oh, why did it not give it? Okay, it's not letting you type or something. But technically you can type, I guess. And then... And then you, and it has the date, which is really cool. And then I guess I could like tell out how happy or sad I am.

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Speaker 31:26:30

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:26:32

Is this for me to put a picture? Perhaps. Okay, that doesn't fully work. And then I transform this entry into a song.

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Speaker 31:26:44

Okay.

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Speaker 41:26:50

I love that I detected a deep sense of longing in my gibberish. That's great. Yeah, and I guess this is where the song would be. I don't know if you guys are able to...

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Speaker 31:27:05

Yeah, it's not playing, but this is what it would look like. Yeah.

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Speaker 41:27:12

Yeah, and then I think you can play the voice, the drums. that's really cool anything that we want to change about this flow i think it actually looks really

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Speaker 11:27:24

good like i feel like it's what i envisioned yeah yeah i think it looks good too but one of the

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Speaker 21:27:30

things is that the color scheme is different on this new uh new screen compared to like the old

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Speaker 31:27:35

oh that's true it's more like it's true

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Speaker 41:27:38

Okay, let's see if this works. Let's do it together. Make the color scheme on the song page. Same as the journal page. Hello. Go, yeah, go. Okay. Okay, it's still thinking. It might take a while to think. I feel like we should go through all the flows and then collect a bunch of prompts and then do it. But we'll do that next time. Okay, cool. Let's try it again. So, start my first entry. Right? Okay. Something. Something. There's a test. Whatever. I'm super happy about this. Stop. Okay. Then transform into song. Oh, it's yellow now.

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Speaker 11:29:08

yeah better yeah but the um the like music part is still blue like the where the music's gonna be

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Speaker 41:29:19

oh yeah um i wonder if that could but is it like music player yeah maybe all AI thinking indicators. Okay. slow because Gemini's slow but also because like yeah my computer's doing 15 things at once and it's kidding me it's gonna cannot share everything all at once

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Speaker 31:30:10

come on

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Speaker 41:30:27

Yeah. Okay, let's do it one last time. First entry. Type something. Type something. Cool.

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Speaker 31:30:37

Move this. Do we like this? The toggle situation?

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Speaker 41:30:43

The what situation? The-- not toggle, what's it called? Bar? No.

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Speaker 11:30:47

Yeah, I actually do like it because I feel like if it couldn't fully grasp what you're saying in your journal, It's a really good backbone to fall on or something that it can use for reference.

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Speaker 41:30:58

Yeah, perfect. Okay, cool. And then we do transform into song.

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Speaker 11:31:01

It's still blue.

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Speaker 41:31:06

It's still blue. But the button is yellow. I'll give it that.

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Speaker 11:31:10

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:31:11

It's trying really hard. Okay, let's try another... We'll keep that as a note. Let's try another flow just so we know what the other one looks like. Well, one, do you like the pages situation?

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Speaker 11:31:21

I do. That was one of the first thing I noticed that it has like different labels for like different journal entries that you've been doing.

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Speaker 41:31:30

Oh, cool. These are titles of journal entries. Yeah. Awesome. Okay, I looked at them as pages, and I was confused about what that means. But you're totally right. I wonder what would happen if we do the other flow. Do you want to try?

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Speaker 31:31:48

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:31:49

Okay, so if we say skip to dashboard over here.

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Speaker 11:31:52

Ooh, that looks new. I like that.

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Speaker 41:31:55

Yeah, this is a little bit too.

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Speaker 21:31:57

yeah what should i click maybe like wait does new journal entry take you to the same place

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Speaker 41:32:06

where it took us yeah yeah that's amazing okay then i can like go wait can i go back

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Speaker 21:32:14

i can click the logo at the top yeah does that work

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Speaker 41:32:19

Can I? Oh, okay. It's the X. Do you want it to be clickable? Do you see what I just did?

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Speaker 21:32:25

Yeah. I think that will make sense having the X be clickable.

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Speaker 41:32:31

Making the, okay. Cool. What happens if I click on an entry? No. I think. OK, we haven't done that. Oh, and I can share it with friends, right?

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Speaker 11:32:52

Oh, yeah, the sharing.

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Speaker 41:32:56

Wait, where's my profile picture?

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Speaker 11:33:01

Oh, the little thing that-- the drawing. Yeah, didn't we have that in the--

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Speaker 41:33:06

right where was it supposed to be uh the top left top left yeah top left okay what's that it

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Speaker 11:33:15

i feel like it's like kind of fine without it yeah okay i kind of like the like um n dot as like the like um i don't know what it's called like logo yeah

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Speaker 21:33:34

I think we should fill in the space below it though or I don't know if that's just because the orientation is weird right now because we have it in a portrait type of view but I think there's too much space at the bottom yeah

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Speaker 41:33:48

uh I'm trying to like this is like what it looks like if I toggle with my screen

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Speaker 21:33:56

oh yeah I think if that's what it looks like then it looks good but if it just yeah

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Speaker 41:34:03

I mean do you want to ask it to fill it at the bottom and see what happens

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Speaker 21:34:10

I mean like what would we fill it with though that's the

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Speaker 11:34:14

We will fill it with. Um, uh, like you could just ask it to fill it with like buttons that are accessible for the user and see what it does.

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Speaker 41:34:27

Like, see what its ideas are with buttons or sorry, fill it with.

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Speaker 11:34:32

That button, um, enhance user.

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Speaker 41:34:36

experience yeah I don't know what will happen it's very broad Oh. cool. Look, it's adding intensity ritual.

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Speaker 31:35:15

Hmm.

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Speaker 41:35:36

and I just want to see the dashboard where is it did not happen what's happening maybe it's in the

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Speaker 11:35:46

entry no I'm sad you could ask the AI where like what page you added it to

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Speaker 41:36:20

Oh. You know where it is? Look.

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Speaker 11:36:25

On the first entry?

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Speaker 41:36:27

Yeah. I think it's like if I do whatever, like make this into an entry, it's here.

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Speaker 11:36:41

Oh.

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Speaker 41:36:44

Right?

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Speaker 11:36:45

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:36:46

Yeah, that's not what we wanted. We wanted more buttons here. Right, Angot? Yeah.

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Speaker 11:36:59

New buttons on the page that says welcome back.

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Speaker 31:37:04

Yeah.

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Speaker 41:37:07

I typed it verbatim and now it's plural. Yeah. A few people.

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Speaker 31:37:31

Oh, interesting.

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Speaker 41:37:32

Okay, we can see what it looks like. What do you think? Daily prompt banner.

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Speaker 11:37:39

Quick. Oh, I like the friend activity idea.

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Speaker 41:37:46

Reminds me of Spotify a little bit.

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Speaker 11:37:50

Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 41:38:14

Okay, I'm going to the dashboard. Oh, cool. Okay. So it has a prompt and it takes me to this page. And then I guess like a starter. We actually leave. This is really cool. Any final thoughts before we go back?

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Speaker 11:38:55

I really like, I think that was good that we added that.

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Speaker 41:38:59

glad ai is thinking with us not for us but with us yes yay cool okay let's go back to the main

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Speaker 21:39:07

room then awesome thank you yeah

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Speaker 51:39:40

Okay, this is the last part of today's activity. We're going to reflect on the tools that you just made. Ellie and Rodem would be great if you could click on share and then put the link on the meal board on the screenshot page so that they can just easily click it. Do you guys know how to do it? Did you find it? I'll show you. So you can click on share button right here, share, and then it will create a link. So if you could copy this link and then just, you know, make a text box and then paste the link. like this so that the...

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Speaker 41:40:23

Text.quare just so everyone finds those links.

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Speaker 51:40:26

Yeah, on the screenshot. So instead of putting screenshot, if you could just... Maybe you can also use sticky notes as well so that they can go in and try it. I'll put large sticky notes for all the groups. Here we go. Oh, nice! Ally is using the sophisticated link one. And meanwhile, everyone, based on what you saw, and also you can go ahead and try the link once again, you can reflect on the questions provided here. How accurately could you express your emotion with it? How accurately was the tool incarnated through the life-building process that you just went through with your facilitators? How was your experience with it? and you like it and you don't like it and I'm gonna give you guys five minutes to reflect on your group spaces so how to find it if you zoom out on the bottom there are the reflection space or you can also just follow the lines like this Then you'll be there So yeah I'll just get rid of it. Okay, group three, I'll put the link right now. There you go.

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Speaker 41:41:39

And then you didn't want us to put screenshots?

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Speaker 51:41:44

I don't think so. It's okay. Okay. Yeah, it was originally for outer groups, but it's okay. Okay, for now go ahead and come to your group space on the very bottom. Everyone, it's the same mirror link. Let me share it once again. On the very bottom there is a reflection space. So yes, come down. There you go.

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Speaker 31:42:12

And then... Reflection.

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Speaker 51:42:15

Okay, try to put at least one sticky note for all four questions. The mirror board link is shared on the chat once again. So come down and answer questions on the reflection. Okay, two more minutes. Sometimes I found that the Gemini website doesn't open for some computers in that case. You can just think about your experience, what you just saw through your facilitators monitor, and then reflect on that. Okay, we have two more minutes to reflect. Fill in at least one sticky note for every question. Feel free to fill in more than one sticky note as well. Okay, one more minute for reflection. And make sure you're in your group space. Try to answer for every question because some questions are easier to answer or think about. Okay, 30 more seconds. There's four questions. Group three, I'm saying that you guys might have seen only the one space. There's four if you zoom out a little bit. Yes. Okay, I see some of you guys are still writing, so I'll give another 30 seconds. Um... Group two if you could also answer the first question and maybe what you didn't like I think you really liked it I see that a lot of red papers empty which is great, but if you could think about anything that'd be great In group three we can think about question one three one two and four as well Could be just one word answer as well. Thank you. Okay, I will let you guys keep on adding and meanwhile I'm just gonna go to our last slides. So this was our last session and if I see you guys again, I think it might be something similar to what we did today and also wanted to share my email. Also share it in the chat if you want any feedbacks for your own project, if you have questions about my research or school life I guess, or you're interested in UX research, design, music information retrieval, maybe I can answer those as well. We have another journal question that is specifically about the vibe you want to turn into music and how the tool that you built today would help it. And yeah, I will toss it to Rodem and Ellie for the announcements.

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Speaker 61:47:32

Yeah, first, let's just give a huge thank you to Dani in the chat or just out loud. It's been so cool getting to work with you for the last five sessions and yeah I really my group didn't love the song that our app created but it was really cool to see it come to life um but yes please fill out your research journals today before you leave um I love reading them and I also appreciate when your answers are really thoughtful because then I actually have stuff to say about it um but yeah fill out your research journals um especially since this is also the last session that we have with Danny so you can kind of reflect on the last five as a whole and how you felt about this one. And then Rotom and I are working on, I guess I'll let Rotom talk about this because.

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Speaker 41:48:30

Yeah, no, that was a good start. I have two things today. One again, thank you, Danny. This was super cool. And from reading the journals, I know people have had a lot of really cool thoughts after these sessions. Here's my announcement. Next week, the week after, we'll be starting kind of a new series of sessions. I'll be leaving those together with a colleague from abroad, Finland. We're going to collaborate with international Yabs to do a really cool project, so come excited. yeah I'm very very excited to see global perspectives on talking about tech and democracy and rights it'll be really fun come to that other than that we're planning two in-person sessions towards the end of the year the first is kind of a more informal one on April 18th we'll send out more details soon but if you already are like I need to plan out my April 18th that would be really cool if you could be here we'll send out on the next email, kind of a poll, whether you'd like it to be at UW or somewhere on the east side. UW is easier for us. Eastside, I assume, is a little bit easier for you, but we can figure it out together as long as we get together and chat. It's always nice to see our faces. And just like last year, for those of you who are returning, we have been accepted to present our work at the iSchool Spring Showcase. That is May 28th. at U-Dub. I'll say more details about it later, but it's this giant showcase about where different students show their projects throughout the year and we will show our projects. Again, we'll talk about it more, but it was a lot of fun last year to do and share a poster and have you all talk to professors and students and, you know, get experiences. But I think we'll talk about more details later and then Allie the rest of yours yes so this Friday is

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Speaker 61:50:29

something called it's also called global day of unplugging but it's a day where people get off of their screens and plug into real life and so half the story the organization that I work for is hosting a challenge that encourages people to unplug for an hour um and Jonathan sent out the email today that has all that information. So just something cool to do with your friends and kind of get off of your phones and your computers. And then also wanted to plug that, we mentioned this a couple weeks ago, but the youth mental health summit that a previous YAB member was a part of is happening on March 21st from 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM in Renton and I will be there and it'd be super cool if you guys are interested in learning more about like mental health awareness and there's gonna be a lot of cool people from legislators to like school leaders and obviously a lot of young people as well, I think like middle school and high schoolers so that's also a great opportunity and

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Speaker 41:51:34

yeah yeah well cool thank you everyone for all your work today and we'll see you soon you guys are free to leave yeah you can pause the recording thank you so much

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Speaker 31:51:57

thank all of you guys so much thank you Thank you.

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Speaker 71:52:18

Hi, I was wondering if it was possible for the in-person meetings, if I could Zoom into them, because I don't live in Washington anymore.

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Speaker 41:52:28

Yeah, I just messaged you back on Zoom. I'll check. Not sure for the one on the 18th, but I'll check for the high school one if there's a possibility.

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Speaker 71:52:38

Also, my parents might be fine with me coming back to visit Seattle, so I might be able to come in person as well.

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Speaker 41:52:44

cool that would be even better yeah it was fun last year right yes very fun yeah me and emily

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Speaker 71:52:50

ate like three different like servings of cheese the cheese is really good we really like these

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Speaker 41:52:55

things yeah people come for the food i totally get it that's i distinctly remember taking like

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Speaker 71:53:01

like all the cheese on the skewers and like eating at least three times me and emily love that cheese bro

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Speaker 41:53:06

Please tell that story next time we meet so people come to the showcase. I mean, I'm fine with marketing as cheese. That's fine, too. That's okay with me. Cool. Thanks.

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Speaker 31:53:17

Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 51:53:22

I'll message you guys about the journal because I have a medical account.

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